Questionable Camos

What looks like blue stuff is areas where the tan camo paint is thin. You're seeing the underlying factory paint to show through. Looks blue because it's blended with the overlying tan.
 
Ruffin said:
Agree that the ckl shell and 1943 dated liner cut it too close to reliably say this helmet was used in North Africa. What I find strange is that the liner looks almost brand new - like it hardly spent any time on a soldier's head. Doesn't match the wear on the outside of the shell or the rim. It's a tropical camo. I would expect that even after a few months of use in a warm environment there would be sweat stains on the liner. The paint and wear look pretty good but this is one I'd loose sleep over.
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Something does not make sense. If the liner is too new to match the condition of the camo, then why is there camo paint on the liner band and chinstrap bales ?
 
M45 said:
Something does not make sense. If the liner is too new to match the condition of the camo, then why is there camo paint on the liner band and chinstrap bales ?
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Either it's a fake or it really is a minty original camo. If it's a minty original, it's possible that some of the wear on the shell occurred in post-war handling or storage. This one is hard to call.
 
M45 said:
Something does not make sense. If the liner is too new to match the condition of the camo, then why is there camo paint on the liner band and chinstrap bales ?
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Wild guess: the liner was installed before the camo paint was applied?

But it looks good?

Back into my hole.

F.
 
M45 said:
Something does not make sense. If the liner is too new to match the condition of the camo, then why is there camo paint on the liner band and chinstrap bales ?
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I guess you missed post #520

The helmet was painted after the replaced liner was installed.
 
Frank F. said:
Wild guess: the liner was installed before the camo paint was applied?

But it looks good?

Back into my hole.

F.
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Yes, but why does the camo show considerable wear while the liner shows no wear ? That would mean the camo would have to have been mint when captured like the liner, then poorly stored to produce the dings we see on it today.
 
My favorite logic used to justify a helmet:
"Who would do something like this on purpose if they trying to fake a helmet. It doesn't make sense."

Translation: It looks so fake that a real faker wouldn't do it. Therefore, its real.
 
Nirvana, that kind of logic will twist your brain into a pretzel.

I do not see typical storage scuffing on the crown, but a well distributed minor wear. I also see some fresh rusting.

That camo on the mint liner band only screwed this one up as per believability, IMO. The exterior was aged, but not the interior.
 

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Wire camo

WIRE CAMO on GHW2

"Used but not abused, just the way we like to see them". Also, can you see the oxidation/reaction between the wire and the shell ? Definitely a good sign. It shows that the two have been together for awhile. Just look at that wear on the interior rim! A nice factory ND helmet that received a wartime wire job. It is even named!

So who wouldn't want this beauty to grace the 'top shelf' of their helmet cabinet ?

Ooops! Wait a minute. I just noticed something.....

That shell is a recent postwar Chinese/East Indian fake :(
 

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nirvana said:
My favorite logic used to justify a helmet:
"Who would do something like this on purpose if they trying to fake a helmet. It doesn't make sense."

Translation: It looks so fake that a real faker wouldn't do it. Therefore, its real.
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"Now that's funny. I don't care who you are, that's funny"
 
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Here's a couple of helmets posted as real on WAF a few years ago. They're not mine. Look how they both have the same area where camo paint is absent on the left side as the rim forms to meet the visor. What do you think of these - real or fake?





 
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