Questionable Camos

Here's a couple of helmets posted as real on WAF a few years ago. They're not mine. Look how they both have the same area where camo paint is absent on the left side as the rim forms to meet the visor. What do you think of these - real or fake?


I have long been suspect of this "line" of "Normandy camo". More than a few have turned up over the years. They lack the overall oxidation and wear one would like to see, which is present on known originals. My belief is that with these camos that fakes are being compared to fakes to authenticate them. These are my opinions formed only from looking a internets pics of these. If a humper gets the formula right and sells $350 art for $3500 (or $2500 or $2000 or $1500) he isn't going to stop.
 
My belief is that with these camos that fakes are being compared to fakes to authenticate them.

Good point. Comparing counterfeit cash to counterfeit cash will not get you closer to the real thing. Rex's work, as good as it is, still leaves behind tell-tale signs of what it is that identifies it as a 'Rex restoration'. If you view enough of them, I think particulars can be gathered. Of course, Rex himself would be most helpful in this endeavor.

This known original (IMO) 3-color camo shows the deadness and flatness of the paint exposed to the elements for 70years. Many restorations are still a bit bright for my taste, but given enough time and the elements to do their work, future collectors will only be faced with a much more daunting task of identification.
 

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Rex's work, as good as it is, still leaves behind tell-tale signs of what it is that identifies it as a 'Rex restoration'. If you view enough of them, I think particulars can be gathered.

Exactly. This is what I mean by a faker's "signature". Helmets created by the same hand start to look alike and if you view enough of them you recognize patterns and similarities in appearance.
 
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M35 DD Police

Not a camo but I'll post it here. These early war apple greens are hard to do. Would you spot this as a fake?













 
From those pics Ruffin, on my iPhone, I would not ID that as a fake. The iPhone excuse is to give me wiggle room, but I like that helmet. I don't know too much about polizei decals as I don't collect those helmets.
 
I am going to say repaint. Paint seems to mottled to me, I have a number of different apple green helms and they don't seem to wear this mottled. Maybe it is a trick of the camera? Also, don't like the rivets, seem to domed for the era of the helmet.
 

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I am going to say repaint. Paint seems to mottled to me, I have a number of different apple green helms and they don't seem to wear this mottled. Maybe it is a trick of the camera? Also, don't like the rivets, seem to domed for the era of the helmet.

Something about it doesn't look right, and the mottling can be caused by cleaning. The decals look odd and oddly "worn", but I'm not familiar with polizei decal variations.
 
Something about it doesn't look right, and the mottling can be caused by cleaning. The decals look odd and oddly "worn", but I'm not familiar with polizei decal variations.

knowing the maker and lot # would be the key factor in this police helmet.
 
Now with the lot# book available, restorers can simply see what else was produced with the same maker/model/lot# as their bare shell and create something that historically matches.
 
Now with the lot# book available, restorers can simply see what else was produced with the same maker/model/lot# as their bare shell and create something that historically matches.

that's true. But, I was basing my comment on the decals on the police helmet. ET, NS, Q all had their own patterns.
 
The police decals are bad. Why is everyone questioning maker and lot number? That is irrelevant.

As someone else posted. The rivets are bad too.
 
The police decals are bad. As someone else posted. The rivets are bad too.

That's correct. The decals and split pins are repros. Interior and exterior paint and shell aging are recently done
 
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It's really not that hard to tell any of these, the paint texture and 'look' is ALWAYS the same - even with that last M42 ND. Wrong colour also.
 
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