Questionable Camos

[Warrior1354]

Wow someone is already willing too put out over $6500 for this fake treasure, I mean rare treasure lol.

 

[deadeye18]

http://www.ghw2.com/topic/53370-m42-camo-helmet/

Some work of a French 'restorer'.

These are scarily good. I take my hat off to this french fellas artwork,it's incredible.

 

[M45]

Dealers defend

Dealers are taking to the helmet forums to defend their helmets.


http://www.ghw2.com/topic/53452-m40-sd-3-tone-normandy-camo/page-3 (IWF -Q66 M40 3-color camo)

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=887090&page=6 (Virtual Grenadier - Medic)

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=887090&page=5 (Ken N. - Medic)

 

[M45]

M42 snow camo

http://www.germanhelmetsinc.com/gallery.htm

Not for sale but in the owners collection gallery.

This is one of the very few "one looker" original snow camouflage helmets that I have ever owned.


Note that photos are shaded, common with this dealer re: snow camos and medics, presumably to tone down the bright white paint. Plenty of paint popped off of this one in addition to many parallel scratches.

 

[Frank F.]

Note that photos are shaded, common with this dealer re: snow camos and medics, presumably to tone down the bright white paint. Plenty of paint popped off of this one in addition to many parallel scratches.

Funny, no? We request sharp, high res and accurate pics from the plebs but dealers get a free pass when it comes to image quality.

F.

 

[M45]

Dak fake?

http://www.ghw2.com/topic/53472-options-on-m40-dak-et64/

This DAK M40 is thought to be a fake according to GHW2, created by a well known faker. Lots of parallel scratches, some curved scratches and little short scratches.

This one will keep me awake at night.

 

[ZF41 K98k]

Just found these. A couple of pics inside the well known faker's lair - was sent these a year or so ago from the fella himself in fact....

 

[M45]

Strange medic similarity

These medic helmets all have a type of material pattern on them.

 

[nirvana]

Just found these. A couple of pics inside the well known faker's lair - was sent these a year or so ago from the fella himself in fact....

Its pretty much the same set of helmets, but from a different angle. He rotated the bottom row to face the camera, changed a couple of the camos around. Solid.

 

[M45]

Twin geometrics

http://www.ghw2.com/topic/53505-twin-geometric-camos/

We have TWINS Mabel ! By golly, now these things are popping up TWO at a time! These helmets appear identical as to colors, scheme, wear, age. Painted up by the same unit, I suppose and saw identical action ?

Recall that photo of the former WAF mod sitting at a table with FOUR near identical sawdust camos.

EDIT: standing at a table.

EDIT:


I didn't want to intrude on Martins great thead on his Geometric camos.

I never thought I would have one in my collection but luck came my way a few years ago. This is the one from The John Burnett collection that he sourced from the woodwork.

Its not the sprayed type that are in the thread, but its still a geometric. Ken B has the brother to this one.

 

[M45]

Ss normandy camo

http://www.ghw2.com/topic/36271-ss-normandy-camo-m40q/

Apparently a former DougB SS helmet. Concerns are the way the bare metal has reacted, re: red rust on bare steel and rust pitting of the steel on the rim and airvents. This helmet has been outside for a fair amount of time, but during use the rust turns to a smooth, dark patina. This is often notable on the rim and crown and vents.

However, when a helmet sets outside to 'cook' (a replica) it develops red rust and rust pitting; nothing to get in the way of the rusting process like hands rubbing against it.

A well-distributed minor-moderate wear throughout, which is unnatural IMO. No significant extra wear to the crown that differs from the rest of the helmet.

I can see how it would be easy to become snake-fascinated with this one, like many were snake-fascinated with C-SS. Think about how movie prop artists do their work; painting up wood to make it appear to be stone or metal, etc... The painting of a helmet to make it appear to be a 70+ year old authentic camo is right up the alley of a (con) artist.

 

[M45]

Here's alleged camo faker and father of the CSS table at MAX. He also peddles his wares on Facebook. If he truly is the crook he is said to be, and so many people know it, it truly is a damning indictment of the helmet community that he even dares to set up a table at MAX. My two cents on his alleged activity. Maybe he is a stand up guy.

Nathan, I think I found your helmet for sale on Ebay: 162291883834

Price:
US $2,800.00
Buy It Now
Item location:
Waterford, Michigan, United States

German WW2 M40 Normandy three color camo helmet. This is a text book example and a top self helmet. All complete with undamaged liner and strap. All rivet and liner and strap are original to the helmet. Never had been altered in any way. Camo paint shows honest wear with no dents or cracks. Helmet shell is the SE maker and size is 64. Liner and strap are completely intact with no rips or tears. Camo colors are the classic three color Normandy pattern. Tan base with brick red and moss green over spray. Paint is 98% only showing minor scrapes and scratches. This beautiful Camo patten displays well at all angles. I offer a 100% guarantee of satisfaction. I will refund your money in full if not as discerned. All bidders are welcome. Postage is $18.00 for US buyers and $38.00 for oversea's buyers. Thanks for looking!

 

[NathanLM]

neat art class project.

 

[M45]

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=887090&page=7

Originally Posted by Marc Shaffer View Post
... another thing that has always bothered me on these high end helmets that have 99% paint on them is that they always seem to have the paint worn completely away all the way around the rim of the helmet, including the area between the visor and skirt. To me that would indicate a lot of use and that doesn't match with the overall wear on the rest of the helmet.


PANZER 1432: Correct, but I would not become too obsessed with the rim of the helmet. IMO there are several other parts of the helmet that carry more weight.

The helmet is good.


Panzer 1432 translation: Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

 

[M45]

M40 single decal Luftwaffe helmet with 3-color spray camouflage

http://www.germanhelmetsinc.com/gallery.htm

oops, got title wrong:

M40 single decal army helmet with 3-color spray camouflage

 

[M45]

M35 Double decal Luftwaffe helmet with 3-color spray camouflage

http://www.germanhelmetsinc.com/gallery.htm

 

[M45]

M40 single decal Luftwaffe helmet with 3-color spray camouflage

http://www.germanhelmetsinc.com/gallery.htm

In regard to the last 3 camos:

These things are all starting to look alike. Near 100% camo coverage despite heavy rim/vent wear, micro-spatter indicative of modern spray equipment, no serious combat wear despite being front line helmets, colors are bright/vibrant, not faded over 7 decades of oxidation,

they all have that 'used but not abused look that we like to see', or just the right amount of wear that collectors like to see on their helmets (that's referring to ORIGINAL helmets, BTW)

a few 'nice touches' like a fingerprint here or there or a bit of camo on the linerband or overspray on the chinstrap.

What ?? no fancy war stories about how they were found in a bunker or captured during the Battle of the Bulge, no photos of vets posing with the helmets, no ownership histories, no COA paperwork, no field post numbers to trace to specific troopers, no traceable provenance whatsoever ???

So these things just "appear" out of nowhere.

 

[M45]

M38 normandy camo

http://www.ghw2.com/topic/52323-fj-helmet-from-normandie-falaise-pocket/

Hi guys,just want to share with you another of my helmet found a fews years ago in Normandie Falaise pocket..

Hope you will like it !

Martin


A German helmet camo found recently in France ? I'm not surprised based on what I see. France has become a hotbed of fake camos in the last years.

 

[M45]

a centerpiece sawdust camo

http://www.ghw2.com/topic/53310-the-centerpiece/page-7


Here is mine... M35 sawdust camouflage.

There are certainly helmets that are way more scarce and "beautiful" than this one, but I just love the patina and it has that really nice combat look to it without being too outworn!

It was found in France decades ago, by the way... had a quick stopover in Spain before it finally ended up in my collection a couple of months back!


Another French camo visiting a forum near you to rave reviews.

 

[M45]

2-tone Heer camo

2-tone Heer camo