I was wondering what happened to this thread. M45 disappeared and McOrioles never posted his camo. It kind of just died.
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Questionable Camos
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Niblet
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Wierdo huh? well you are entitled to your opinion I reckon,,,
I think folks like you and "Playa"are the "wierdo's" or rather sheep....
Heres where we are at at least in my humble opinion, M45 has shown pages and pages of helmets and even more pages of information on why he believes
they are modern humped up items, you people fail to understand or believe that there is quite possibly an individual or several individuals out there
creating these modern art masterpieces. and the future of the entire camo collecting market is at stake.
I simply gave my opinion of one of these helmets over on GHW2,,,and was banned,,,after 8 yrs,,,banned.
they are either unwilling or unable to ask the hard questions or comprehend the answers.
I simply wanted to know the custody chain of several helmets that a well loved member keeps posting.
and for asking this horrible question,,I was banned
well you guys go ahead and wallow in your "questionable camos" and spend your cash,,,
as for me,,I'm back on WAF and GHW2 and will continue to give this hobby hell until I can no longer type
as for Playa,,well he hides behind his keyboard,,and we all know the type,,I have asked him to PM me and we can converse via email,,
but he must be afraid....
I think folks like you and "Playa"are the "wierdo's" or rather sheep....
Heres where we are at at least in my humble opinion, M45 has shown pages and pages of helmets and even more pages of information on why he believes
they are modern humped up items, you people fail to understand or believe that there is quite possibly an individual or several individuals out there
creating these modern art masterpieces. and the future of the entire camo collecting market is at stake.
I simply gave my opinion of one of these helmets over on GHW2,,,and was banned,,,after 8 yrs,,,banned.
they are either unwilling or unable to ask the hard questions or comprehend the answers.
I simply wanted to know the custody chain of several helmets that a well loved member keeps posting.
and for asking this horrible question,,I was banned
well you guys go ahead and wallow in your "questionable camos" and spend your cash,,,
as for me,,I'm back on WAF and GHW2 and will continue to give this hobby hell until I can no longer type
as for Playa,,well he hides behind his keyboard,,and we all know the type,,I have asked him to PM me and we can converse via email,,
but he must be afraid....
Eurofighter
Well-known member
Sorry, but who else would have an Avatar like the one you have? That is certainly weird....or sad.
EF.
Niblet
Left Nad
sounds like you got Mommy issues Lol
Player11
Right Nad
Sorry, im not hidden, im here reading what is said about "questionables camos", he somebody touch the wrong button i will reply, i have debated with M45 about his camos, and even a decaled helmet that was being questioned by somebody who wrotte a book about lot nr, and he didnt ask the lot nr of it to begin to questioned it. All has been badly.
You have asked me to PM you?, that´s the first news i have about it lol!! guess you are speaking about another person.
Sorry about the delay,it will be up today.
Well here is the cliff notes version of why the thread died.
1.People who know their stuff were tipped off to this form posting many good camos among easy to tell fakes.
2. 1 poster,M45 who has some knowledge and his lackey Nibbles,making totally unsubstantiated claims about " soldiers did this and that " trying to discredit good lids.
3. I posted my personal M40 ET Heer lid.
4. Asked M45 to evaluate based on his knowledge.
5. M45 goes on to discredit my helmet by saying the decal isn't a known decal and it should be a no decal lid so therefore it's bad.
The helmet is 1000% original,untouched,one of the easiest most iconic helmets made by the Germans.
M45 didn't even ask the lot number but accesses it should be a no decal?
He got busted and now has run off and without his input FIRST,Nibbles can't comment because his boy M45 is AWOL.
Think this pretty much sums it up.
1.People who know their stuff were tipped off to this form posting many good camos among easy to tell fakes.
2. 1 poster,M45 who has some knowledge and his lackey Nibbles,making totally unsubstantiated claims about " soldiers did this and that " trying to discredit good lids.
3. I posted my personal M40 ET Heer lid.
4. Asked M45 to evaluate based on his knowledge.
5. M45 goes on to discredit my helmet by saying the decal isn't a known decal and it should be a no decal lid so therefore it's bad.
The helmet is 1000% original,untouched,one of the easiest most iconic helmets made by the Germans.
M45 didn't even ask the lot number but accesses it should be a no decal?
He got busted and now has run off and without his input FIRST,Nibbles can't comment because his boy M45 is AWOL.
Think this pretty much sums it up.
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Hopefully, the value of non-censorship can be seen. People are free to make their points here, pro and con. Another avatar will be awarded to anyone engaging in ad hominem rhetoric and personal attack. I'm looking to balance things out by issuing one to Player's opposition. Thank you in advance for keeping it substantive and interesting.
Please give Niblet a new Avatar. I never even noticed what his was til it was brought up. Now I can't help seeing it.
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Player11
Right Nad
You have been banned for your disrespectful behaviour to Mr. Ron, and your "double face" wasn't tolerated anymore, make them wonder if you just wanting to jump on the bandwagon of GHW bashers.
not certainly for your questions or else about camos.
this is what a mod told me
Of course,Nibbles has ZERO accountability.
Here we go.Sorry for the delay,been very busy.So,here is the wire lid I posted before with just some basic shots.I have taken more detailed shots and macros.Now I will give my opinion as to why this is real.First the "shiny pin heads".This is not uncommon as these particular pins are zinc coated,they are not primed just painted and tend to flake off any added substance,rust also does not have the propensity to rust or patina.Ive seen many of these textured lids do the same thing on all three pins.I believe brass was the only other metal used to make the heads if Im not mistaken.Secondly some had issues with the wire being post war added.One of these pics clearly shows where indeed the wire is almost broken thru.If you think about it how was it applied post war then?Surly this fragile wire would have snapped being shaped to the helmet if it was done recently,no?Also note in these new detailed shots you do see ghosting.Some had issue with the textured wear.There is obvious wear to the edges and high points,the texture in areas of high points is worn and not done recently.Also IMO not partial snow camo as it was listed,I think its where someone spilled white paint on it and tried to wipe clean,hard to do on a textured lid,or they weren't worried about getting "some old helmet" perfectly clean.You can see some fine splatter like the helmet was in the presence of a roller.Inside looks ok typical M35 ET paint name doesn't jump out as being added.Also if you have handled the textured camps they are very ,very hard.When M 45 constantly talks about "chipping",flaking" wear,think about this.What happens to houses when they stucco block walls? When its hit with an object it will break,HEY!just like this textured concrete type substance.
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Niblet
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Where exactly did I disrespect mr Ron?
What did I say?
by asking a question about several of his exotic camos?
by giving my opinion and observation of said camos?
I thought that's what a forum was about? discussion?
obviously not on WAF or GHW2,,,because I didn't give the thumbs up like the other
sheeple,,I got the boot,,,so the GHW2 mods don't like what I say on this forum about them?
tell them to find a broomstick,,,shove it up there arse,,,and flyaway
What did I say?
by asking a question about several of his exotic camos?
by giving my opinion and observation of said camos?
I thought that's what a forum was about? discussion?
obviously not on WAF or GHW2,,,because I didn't give the thumbs up like the other
sheeple,,I got the boot,,,so the GHW2 mods don't like what I say on this forum about them?
tell them to find a broomstick,,,shove it up there arse,,,and flyaway
Where exactly did I disrespect mr Ron?
What did I say?
by asking a question about several of his exotic camos?
by giving my opinion and observation of said camos?
I thought that's what a forum was about? discussion?
obviously not on WAF or GHW2,,,because I didn't give the thumbs up like the other
sheeple,,I got the boot,,,so the GHW2 mods don't like what I say on this forum about them?
tell them to find a broomstick,,,shove it up there arse,,,and flyaway
You questioned his sanity by asking if he was senile because he happens to be a older gentleman.
The way I was raised you respect your elders.
You made it personal.
Frank F.
Well-known member
***Disclaimer: I own only two camos and one wire and am not an "expert."***
I do like this one. Everything looks like it has been together for a very long time. The wear doesn't look strange in my eyes — Brian likes to point out popped paint, but I think he means hard and crisp breaks. From what I can see paint popped and then it rounded with wear, age and dirt filling in over time. There are no hard, fresh edges. There are the rusticules / dusticules that have formed between the wire and the helmet surface at the attachment points. I think that would be incredible hard to reproduce. No real hard wear, but also not a beater suitable for an upgrade either. It's certainly unusual, but I would not dismiss it at all.
My 2 cent.
F.
I do like this one. Everything looks like it has been together for a very long time. The wear doesn't look strange in my eyes — Brian likes to point out popped paint, but I think he means hard and crisp breaks. From what I can see paint popped and then it rounded with wear, age and dirt filling in over time. There are no hard, fresh edges. There are the rusticules / dusticules that have formed between the wire and the helmet surface at the attachment points. I think that would be incredible hard to reproduce. No real hard wear, but also not a beater suitable for an upgrade either. It's certainly unusual, but I would not dismiss it at all.
My 2 cent.
F.
Warrior1354
ax - hole
Neat helmet and you can clearly tell that wire has been there for a very long time. And one thing I do know is metal wire. We built many fences around the farm here with steel wire and tore out the older stuff that was here long ago as well. Some of that stuff was so old the trees grew into it. Anyway wire fencing that I have tore out, we put in well over 18 years old. The weather did age it and it was brown and rusty but was still bendable. And quite possibly could be used again. The other stuff I could break with my pinky finger which is about the same condition it was, as the kind on this helmet.
What I like with this helmet is the wire has aged along with it and you clearly tell it was not added later. Now if someone wants some almost 100 year old fencing wire got plenty of it if you want too try too use it on your old helmets. But it won't work sorry.
What I like with this helmet is the wire has aged along with it and you clearly tell it was not added later. Now if someone wants some almost 100 year old fencing wire got plenty of it if you want too try too use it on your old helmets. But it won't work sorry.
Thanks Frank.I will say this to be fair.The first round of pics M45 used multiple times were not detailed.On the other hand I would have asked for better pics before I trashed a helmet.
Like I've said multiple times,I'm no expert either.Ive been doing this serious,y about 15 years.More than some but a lot less than most.Ive made a few mistakes,no doubt.
Thanks,I'm glad I captured it properly,your points are exactly what I was trying to convey......except you did it better.
