Player11
Right Nad
LOL !!!!
werent you able to do that, just for pics??!!!Lol ( again) now we are saved
Have you noticed the helmets are posted at the sun? is logic to have bright colours!!!
, this thread is beginning to be soooooo funny 
Questionable Camos
- Thread starter M45
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LOL !!!!
werent you able to do that, just for pics??!!!Lol ( again) now we are saved
Have you noticed the helmets are posted at the sun? is logic to have bright colours!!!
, this thread is beginning to be soooooo funny
Player11
Right Nad
In summary: nothing special, my dog can do this same judgement, allways speaking about highly faked helmets, Normandy camos= heavy fake helmet, CW helmets= im suspicious for such a high faked helmetsI'll take the bait, Nibblers.After so many months you may notice is Niblet, not Nibblers
1. DD Heer - absolutely authenticRight. Don't need a hands-on to see that. I would stick with pure factory production if I were you. As you will see, I don't think camos are your strong point. Guess you may begin to close your mouth
2. M42 wire - considering that probably 99% or wires are fake, I would be highly suspicious of that one hodwash. Even Ken N. agrees that wires are highly faked (but of course the ones HE's selling are A-OK). a more intelligent expert would ask better pics not only one
3. 3 color Normandy/woodchip/strap - danger, my friend. Don't think that such helmets cannot be replicated. Don't think that such helmets are not being replicated. Too much $$$ involved for their not to be.MORE HODWASH , for being Normandy camo HAS TO BE FAKE? WOULD NEED A HAND INSPECTION
4. Tiger stripe Normandy - absolutely bad, no doubt in my mindcan imagine it
5. Net camo - anyone can put a net on a helmet.one of the most stupid thing i have ever read, also could be painted in pink, for example I fail to see why such helmets should sell for more that their component parts.
6. Woodchip/wire - absolutely bad, no doubt in my mind. Pristine condition material despite heavy wear to rim/vents. Overdone with wire as are many postwar creations.
7. SD Heer wire, actually looks goodcorrect wire torsion, correct damages on the paint under the torsion, but once again wires are heavily fakedbla,bla,bla,. Are you a wire expert ? Then I would steer clear of wires.
8. Tan - Shows promise, needs a hands-onhahahahahahahahahah.
In summary: only #1 is hands-down authentic IMO. #8 could use a hands-on to confirm as well as the wires if that's your thing.
Total: 95% of hodwash
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Warrior1354
ax - hole
I'm sorry I had to get a good chuckle out of that from player11. I agree with the community pictures can only tell you so much Hands-On inspection tells you about everything.
I myself have never been a big collector of helmets only rifles but I can tell you after you handle 30 or 40 rifles in the same class you start to find out what's right and what's not. The SOS show was a perfect example for me alot of the k98k rifles I collect there had problems. The good ones were pretty much gone the first day of the show or sold the day before during setup.
I myself have never been a big collector of helmets only rifles but I can tell you after you handle 30 or 40 rifles in the same class you start to find out what's right and what's not. The SOS show was a perfect example for me alot of the k98k rifles I collect there had problems. The good ones were pretty much gone the first day of the show or sold the day before during setup.
Player11
Right Nad
Another brilliant observation by my colleague M45,,,
now lets wait for player11 and the rest of the gang to hear how this "simply cannot be"
Your colleague no, your Master. If i were him i wouldnt let you speak so friendly.Replied. Guess you hide after the sofa because is the most intelligent thing you can say or do. Apart of putting your cap on your head
Another brilliant observation by my colleague M45,,,
Funny,,I clicked on number 6 myself and laughed,,,and then thought,,why bother,,,but M45,,good job!
now lets wait for player11 and the rest of the gang to hear how this "simply cannot be"
This is all anyone needs to read to see how grossly incompetent these two are.
Funny how Nibbles hasn't said anything on GHW about all of these lids.
Seems like you two are the only ones that doubt any of them except the wire woodchip which like I said previously was a 50/50 split.
You guys crack me up.
So,I like the odds.many ,many opinions for, opinions against? Only you two.
And 90% of those opinions are people I've never met.
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Luckily for some this forum doesn't ban people, unlike other forums which are apparently prone to do. Ad hominem attacks are accepted here, as are criticisms of people's pride and joy helmets. While it does mean that some stuff devolves into a mess, it's also why the K98 world didn't get face raped with champagne runes, and it's why we also aren't up to our knees in shite camo helmets that were done in someone's garage last week. Such is the reward, and price, of freedom.
Some more food for thought.....
I see a pattern of critisizm from you two about "not enough wear" looks fresh"
Then how do you explain the many helmets of every branch that look brand new?
We know they are real because of the components and decals,right?
Now that's not to say a "fresher" looking Camo deserves less scrutiny,quite the opposite it needs more and the threshold should be higher than that if a 20% Left Camo that was rode hard.
I see a pattern of critisizm from you two about "not enough wear" looks fresh"
Then how do you explain the many helmets of every branch that look brand new?
We know they are real because of the components and decals,right?
Now that's not to say a "fresher" looking Camo deserves less scrutiny,quite the opposite it needs more and the threshold should be higher than that if a 20% Left Camo that was rode hard.
Frank F.
Well-known member
Posted that a number of pages back: Pristine camo'd helmets rolling into American captivity in Czechoslovakia, at the last day of the war.
Definitely extremely rare, but they do exist.
F.
I think you missed my point Frank.Those two use the term "fresh" and " looks new" as a excuse.
Well we have unequivocal evidence a lot of non Camo helmets came back that look like they came from a time machine,some much older than camos done in the Spring of '44.
That last little "test" of yours McOrioles showed nothing. If you actually read M45's comments he only gave an opinion that 1 and 8 were real or likely real. 2 and 7 he is suspicious of 2 leaning toward fake and 7 toward real. 4 and 6 he called fake. 3 and 5 he gave no opinion on the helmet in particular.
Yet you and player11 are the ones who really took the bait and showed you are just looking to attack M45 without even reading what he writes or offering your own opinions; other than McOrioles saying what others said.
Why no knowledge shared or opinion from the other experts?
As for Mauser99's photo of helmets with little wear a in post 1912 maybe I am seeing things, but there looks to be plenty of wear on the helmets in the picture.
As I have stated before I know next to nothing about helmets but I do find this thread interesting.
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Yet you and player11 are the ones who really took the bait and showed you are just looking to attack M45 without even reading what he writes or offering your own opinions; other than McOrioles saying what others said.
Why no knowledge shared or opinion from the other experts?
As for Mauser99's photo of helmets with little wear a in post 1912 maybe I am seeing things, but there looks to be plenty of wear on the helmets in the picture.
As I have stated before I know next to nothing about helmets but I do find this thread interesting.
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Frank F.
Well-known member
Dunno. The difference really is between "fresh" and "unused." I am completely with you in saying that a seventy year old "unused" piece of epuipment should not look "fresh."
F.
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Thank you. And for us (and Bugme and his US helmet guys), XRFacts was a carnival light show, while at WAF it was the "savior of the hobby"
Capt14k is spot on
Its like being at the Zoo and watching Monkeys pick their butts and hurl feces at each other,,,,
you just stand there in amazement and wonder why they do that
Because they can. A man and his friend were walking down the road and they encountered a dog earnestly licking his balls. The man turned to his friend and said, "man, I wish I could do that." Whereupon his friend replied "well, you better make friends with him first."
Your last sentence is the only response I need.
And you not me are guilty of not reading posts.Because had you read mine,only 1 of these helmets got mixed reviews and many,many experienced collectors have had every single one of these in hand or owned at one time or another.Only these two denounce almost all of them.
I'll give you just 1 moronic thing M45 said about 1 of my helmets.
"Anyone can out a net on a helmet".
No shite,but this one has several details that show it's been on there forever.
M45 generalizes,the end.
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Niblet
Left Nad
Niblet
Left Nad
M45 is correct in his assessment of your items,,I'm sorry, dont go away mad................
Is English your second language as well?
Me knowing nothing about camos has nothing to do with me stating what is being written and pointing out the worthless posts yourself and player11 are making that just attack M45, but you add nothing to counter him on specific helmets.
I clearly stated you just wrote what others said. You accuse me of not reading yet again you write what others said. When I said opinion of other experts I meant your own opinion and why, or player11's opinion with specifics.. Not just that others said they are real on another forum, or M45 is wrong.
IMHO I think you are just upset that your collection may have lost value due to M45 educating other collectors.
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Niblet
Left Nad
exactly! Bingo!