Ok something is obviously not right here. Another turd lesson?
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Bigdibbs88
"Ach du lieber!"
Why are you posting live auction links.
waffenmeister
Senior Member
You really need to get the two outstanding books at the top of the home page and read through them again and again.
Other than a smart answer (involving shilling for someone's expensive books) I have not seen a reply as to whether the pictured rifle is good or not. To me, the stock finish and especially the bayonet lug screw holes look suspect, but would like to hear from the experts here first.
And no, I do not have the over $200 of recommended books at the top.
And no, I do not have the over $200 of recommended books at the top.
In reading your post, I can clearly understand the frustration many of those who have been in the hobby a long time feel re: some new entrants in the hobby. You believe collectors who have invested a great deal of time, effort and money in the hobby somehow owe you something--you are not only too cheap to invest in your own education, but too lazy to do 10 minutes of research to find comparable examples to this rifle and find out the answer yourself. Please go away and come back when you are willing to give us something more than insults and bad attitude.
Yes they both are definately on the list of "get soon!"s.
I've been reading BOTW, but I feel it just isn't doing it. Some great stuff no doubt! Just needing more.
mattakinbimwalker
Well-known member
byf 45
It took me exactly 1 minute to find the following guns on this forum....what's your excuse? (Also an "a" block)
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?90-byf-45-a-block
Or this one....
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?300-byf-45-a-block
Why are you not using the pic sticky pages at the very least?!?!?
It took me exactly 1 minute to find the following guns on this forum....what's your excuse? (Also an "a" block)
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?90-byf-45-a-block
Or this one....
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?300-byf-45-a-block
Why are you not using the pic sticky pages at the very least?!?!?
1) You are using this site courtesy of the fellows who wrote those expensive books.
2) I doubt if either Bruce or Mike will be getting rich from the books any time soon. They won't lose money but if either of them make enough to pay for a nice family vacation from the proceeds I would be surprised. They wrote the books out of a love for the topic and not to make money, although making money is nearly always good.
3) You should always invest in the $200 books before you buy the $1,500 rifles (and that's true regardless of which collecting niche you occupy).
4) If you don't want to, or cannot spend the money, use the search engine and picture reference link on this site. When I have a question I typically go that route first.
Rifle has been modified by adding the bayonet lug, postwar, not wartime done. As to the books, i wish we could afford to give them away, but it's just not viable.
I know the books are expensive, want to know why? We purposely chose to print them in the USA with an American company, and insisted on using all American made paper. We also insisted that the binding be done in America and used the offset printing method rather than the cheaper digital printing. The books are high enough quality that 100 years from now they will still be together and readable. Most collector type books on the market are printed in Thailand or China. Way to help the American economy.
It's a limited number printing as well. Once these are gone that's it. You think they are expensive now? Give it 5 years. Once they are out of print and people discover them (we don't advertise) the demand will rise. I have people often tell me that they never heard of them until seeing them on a dealers shelf at the Gunshow.
Much of the info we have in the books is available here for free, we just ask that you do the work of searching for it. No need to buy the book if you don't want, and I don't expect casual collectors who don't love 98k's to own them.
I know the books are expensive, want to know why? We purposely chose to print them in the USA with an American company, and insisted on using all American made paper. We also insisted that the binding be done in America and used the offset printing method rather than the cheaper digital printing. The books are high enough quality that 100 years from now they will still be together and readable. Most collector type books on the market are printed in Thailand or China. Way to help the American economy.
It's a limited number printing as well. Once these are gone that's it. You think they are expensive now? Give it 5 years. Once they are out of print and people discover them (we don't advertise) the demand will rise. I have people often tell me that they never heard of them until seeing them on a dealers shelf at the Gunshow.
Much of the info we have in the books is available here for free, we just ask that you do the work of searching for it. No need to buy the book if you don't want, and I don't expect casual collectors who don't love 98k's to own them.
pzjgr
EOD - bombs and bullets
So you don't have $200 to invest in a lifetimes worth of education in the form of two books, when you are thinking of collecting rifles that can cost $1000 and up? And there are tons of fakes and hucksters out there making them....
Sorry, but $200 is cheap insurance to prevent one from spending $1200 on a humped piece of crap worth $250...
And as Pisgah says...this site is provided by Mike and Bruce free of charge for dedicated 98k collectors...the sheer amount of knowledge available here for free is staggering. So enjoy your stay, please feel free to research till your hearts content, but don't say anyone is shilling anything here. In fact any suspected shilling is stepped on pretty quickly.
The regulars here think the two "expensive" books are fantastic and necessary volumes in the reference library, and don't hesitate to recommend them to anyone with an interest in the 98k....Can't wait to shell out another $150 if need be for the next volume! Hint hint guys....
mike radford
Senior Member
Very well said.
Also, any collector should be aware that many of such books are great investments in and of themselves. Clawsons collector guide of the M1911 and A1 pistols, signed, was $65 about twenty years ago. It is now more than ten times that and very sought after. I suspect Mike and Bruce's books will do the same thing. That does not even account for the money you may save in buying rifles.
Part of the problem is the net. Folks think they can find any answer, for free, in a fraction of a second. Nobody needs to pay, nobody needs a thanks, it is owed to the person at the keyboard. This is today's mindset IMO.
I personally didn't find the books expensive.
Not saying $200 isn't a decent chunk of money, but when you factor in the quality and subject matter I think they are well worth it.
Look at what a hard cover novel sells for these days.....$20-40 easy and on e you've read it, you are typically done with it.
Not saying $200 isn't a decent chunk of money, but when you factor in the quality and subject matter I think they are well worth it.
Look at what a hard cover novel sells for these days.....$20-40 easy and on e you've read it, you are typically done with it.
reich1900
Senior Member
Tiger 2 Tank
Senior Member
I agree. The books are not expensive for the information and quality that they are. I mean even the "feel" of the pages are quality to many other books I have. The pictures aren't black and white either. The pictures do a VERY good job at representing the bluing and coloring of each topic. You can see what a real item is supposed to look like. I only wish I could do half that well with my pics.
Those books are a very good investment. No kidding on the investment part. Jan C Still's books, look at how much they command now vs. when they were first being sold !!!! And almost all, with the exception of the latest book that came out a while back, the pictures are black and white.
Those books are a very good investment. No kidding on the investment part. Jan C Still's books, look at how much they command now vs. when they were first being sold !!!! And almost all, with the exception of the latest book that came out a while back, the pictures are black and white.
