My all matching 1882 Spandau 71/84.....well, almost all matching.

[tazaroo]

So, I finally took the old gal all the way apart to do a below the wood line inspection. The firearm is all matching except for these two screws and, for lack of a better term, receiver parts that are all matching to themselves (#58). Just wondering if any member here can provide some insight as to why these four pieces would be matching to themselves? Also wondering if anyone can provide some insight as to some of the markings. Thanks in advance.
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[chrisftk]

There's a couple of possibilities-- does the bolt match the receiver? Can you add a few more pictures? Stock markings, buttplate (look for a number with a letter below it). I've got a few depot 71/84s. and the ones marked from Mainz (6) did not bother to re-serialize the stocks; only add the depot designation and armorer initial on the buttplate.

The other possibility is that that was a restoration someone did.

Either way, more pics would be required.

 

[tazaroo]

I took some more pictures but I'm off to work and I'll post them this evening. Thanks for the reply.

 

[MichaelWC]

Sorry this is not related to any of the stamps or proof marks on your rifle. Your title has 1882 Spandau 71-84. I believe that is dated 1887. Not 1882. At first glance it did look like an 1882. Then I zoomed in and that period next to the seven does may it look like a two.

 

[tazaroo]

There's a couple of possibilities-- does the bolt match the receiver? Can you add a few more pictures? Stock markings, buttplate (look for a number with a letter below it). I've got a few depot 71/84s. and the ones marked from Mainz (6) did not bother to re-serialize the stocks; only add the depot designation and armorer initial on the buttplate.

The other possibility is that that was a restoration someone did.

Either way, more pics would be required.

Sorry for the late reply. Besides the four mentioned pieces earlier, the entire gun is matching (bolt included) except the middle barrel band which is stamped 32 instead of 37. Wood has the matching number under the receiver tang. By the way @MichaelWC the receiver is stamped 1887. I must have made a typ. Thanks for pointing that out. Here are some pictures.
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[OnlyMil]

That rifles looks REALLY nice, and I gotta say these are some high definition photos. Very nice to look at and a lot of detail.

 

[tazaroo]

That rifles looks REALLY nice, and I gotta say these are some high definition photos. Very nice to look at and a lot of detail.

Thanks. Took the pictures with my I phone 11, uploaded them to Flickr, resized them and posted them.

 

[MichaelWC]

Sorry for the late reply. Besides the four mentioned pieces earlier, the entire gun is matching (bolt included) except the middle barrel band which is stamped 32 instead of 37. Wood has the matching number under the receiver tang. By the way @MichaelWC the receiver is stamped 1887. I must have made a typ. Thanks for pointing that out. Here are some pictures.
005 by vintage collector, on Flickr
004 by vintage collector, on Flickr
003 by vintage collector, on Flickr
006 by vintage collector, on Flickr
008 by vintage collector, on Flickr
001 by vintage collector, on Flickr
002 by vintage collector, on Flickr

No worries typos happen. Great looking rifle by the way.

 

[chrisftk]

Thanks. Took the pictures with my I phone 11, uploaded them to Flickr, resized them and posted them.

OK-- I misunderstood your original post-- those #58 screws do not match on any 71/84 that I have taken apart; and I own a bunch of these. I think it was some sort of internal assembly number for the magazine mechanism. I don't recall ever reading a clear meaning, but that is my guess.

Crisp, lovely Spandau 71/84 aren't rare per se, but I think no collection should be without one. Yours is marked to the ersatz/replacement battalion of 1st Garde Grenadier Regiment (aka the Kaiser Alexander Regiment) this was a prestigious unit with deep roots in the Prussian military tradition; even predating Frederick the Great.

 

[tazaroo]

OK-- I misunderstood your original post-- those #58 screws do not match on any 71/84 that I have taken apart; and I own a bunch of these. I think it was some sort of internal assembly number for the magazine mechanism. I don't recall ever reading a clear meaning, but that is my guess.

Crisp, lovely Spandau 71/84 aren't rare per se, but I think no collection should be without one. Yours is marked to the ersatz/replacement battalion of 1st Garde Grenadier Regiment (aka the Kaiser Alexander Regiment) this was a prestigious unit with deep roots in the Prussian military tradition; even predating Frederick the Great.

Thanks for that helpful insight sir! Much appreciated. I think I’m finally going to put a few rounds (like two) down the tube of some 1950’s Dominion just to see how the old gal shoots.

 

[tazaroo]

OK-- I misunderstood your original post-- those #58 screws do not match on any 71/84 that I have taken apart; and I own a bunch of these. I think it was some sort of internal assembly number for the magazine mechanism. I don't recall ever reading a clear meaning, but that is my guess.

Crisp, lovely Spandau 71/84 aren't rare per se, but I think no collection should be without one. Yours is marked to the ersatz/replacement battalion of 1st Garde Grenadier Regiment (aka the Kaiser Alexander Regiment) this was a prestigious unit with deep roots in the Prussian military tradition; even predating Frederick the Great.

Thanks for that helpful insight sir! Much appreciated. I think I’m finally going to put a few rounds (like two) down the tube of some 1950’s Dominion just to see how the old gal shoots.

 

[Cyrano4747]

Thanks for that helpful insight sir! Much appreciated. I think I’m finally going to put a few rounds (like two) down the tube of some 1950’s Dominion just to see how the old gal shoots.

If you reload save the brass, and if you don't reload sell it to me.

Jokes aside (although not really joking if you want to unload the brass) 11mm Mauser is a great introduction to black powder reloading. It doesn't take much of an investment to get set up and you'll pay off everything you get really damn quickly with how huge the delta is between the cost of reloading vs. the cost of buying ammo for that caliber.

 

[pzjgr]

Sweet gun!

Oddly I also have an 1882 Spandau, s/n 4359 that is also KAR unit marked, all matching, but not quite as crisp as yours...I havent taken any pics or posted it up, i really should...sisters!

Mine is KAR E.4.157.

 

[joryfreeburg]

Good looking rifle!

 

[AN-94]

That's a stunning rifle and with an awesome unit marking to boot, congrats on a really nice 71/84!

 

[tazaroo]

Thanks for all the kind replies and help folks.