Lazy S deaths head research

[Gringo]

Another one. This one appear to be winking at you...

 

[heavy_mech]

This one appear to be winking at you...

'Lazy eye'. I'll ask this anyway. Do the fake (especially the bad ones) devalue them or are the Luger guys just so whatever that they don't care? Or do they think all of them are genuine?

 

[ugafx4]

'Lazy eye'. I'll ask this anyway. Do the fake (especially the bad ones) devalue them or are the Luger guys just so whatever that they don't care? Or do they think all of them are genuine?

It is actually the opposite. They are all fake so they are all devalued.

 

[heavy_mech]

It is actually the opposite. They are all fake so they are all devalued.

I'm trying to understand but I'm neither a Luger collector or on that forum. What was all that jazz about flamethrower units?

 

[ugafx4]

I'm trying to understand but I'm neither a Luger collector or on that forum. What was all that jazz about flamethrower units?

I forget which book it's in (I think it's one of Jam Still's) but one of the theories presented is that these belonged to flame thrower units. Each book has several theories and the flame thrower one seemed to stick for some reason.

 

[RyanE]

Another one. This one appear to be winking at you...

This one is ok IMO.

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[RyanE]

I'm trying to understand but I'm neither a Luger collector or on that forum. What was all that jazz about flamethrower units?

The primary WW1 German flamethrower unit, the Garde-Reserve-Pionier-Regiment, was awarded a Totenkopf patch by the Kaiser in 1916. They wore the patch on their sleeves on both dress and field uniforms and became known as the Totenkopf Pioniere. Who actually connected these guys to the pistols, I don't know. Some German I think?

 

[Gringo]

1916. 1620i

 

[mrfarb]

1916. 1620i

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No bueno. This is an engraved fake imo.


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[Absolut]

If all markings were filled white, OK. But ONLY the DH filled white and the year date a bit filled white .. almost looks as if someone wanted to hide something. Like the fact that it could be engraved.

Always post as many additional pictures as you have. Would be highly interesting to know if the pistol also has a commercial Suhl firing proof, and if any parts are replacement parts.

 

[DWM1915]

This one just came up on GB, comes with a DH stamped holster, 1916 DWM, 8756a

Thanks, Nick

 

[Absolut]

eGun

Oh boy, I don't think I would trust that one..

 

[RyanE]

eGun

Oh boy, I don't think I would trust that one..

What I can see looks ok, but it's been heavily refinished post-war and I doubt these originally came with wood base mags.

I would like to see the barrel markings though.

 

[Absolut]

I fail to see the commercial proofing from that period. Or am I'm too blind with Lugers?

 

[Bigdibbs88]

I fail to see the commercial proofing from that period. Or am I'm too blind with Lugers?

Crown N on both the side of the toggle and receiver

 

[Gringo]

1916 Erfurt, Un-numbered C/N barrel Mismatched sideplate. Ruff condition, but me thinks it's legit.

 

[RyanE]

1916 Erfurt, Un-numbered C/N barrel Mismatched sideplate. Ruff condition, but me thinks it's legit.

I agree.

 

[Absolut]

That's a cool one. Share more pictures in case you are able.

 

[Gringo]

DWM not Erfurt. She has definitely been around the block.

 

[Gringo]

There are quite a few pictures available on the old luger forum...it's funny, that after looking at them for a while, you can almost start to figure out which ones may be legit, and which ones seem to be absolute fakes (even without seeing the barrels or receivers).
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