Kennblaetter fremden Geraets
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Two examples of foreign weapon entries in Soldbucher, both from Wehrmacht prison guards, one from the WH prison in Paris and the other from the WH prison in Brussels.
Both guards got foreign weapons, the Belgian mauser rifle is entered as 451(b) with serialnumber 8962; the French rifles are entered as M36 and the other just as "franz".
My experience is that the weapons administration just writes it down in the Soldbuch like they feel how they should write it down, sometimes the official name but more often just an abriviation or code they have made up themselves; I doubt that they used a manual for it.
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Both guards got foreign weapons, the Belgian mauser rifle is entered as 451(b) with serialnumber 8962; the French rifles are entered as M36 and the other just as "franz".
My experience is that the weapons administration just writes it down in the Soldbuch like they feel how they should write it down, sometimes the official name but more often just an abriviation or code they have made up themselves; I doubt that they used a manual for it.
P
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Hello Peter,
thank you so much!
Did you show the complete 451 (b) Soldbuch earlier?
Thanks
Wolfgang
PS:
I'll show the Landesschützen SB in the documents section later. It is interesting because the solider participated in some anti partisan operations in Slovenia.
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No, I didn't show that one here, it isn't very spectacular, but for me it is an interesting one because the prison where he served was used by the GFP and the Sipo/SD to detain Belgian resistance fighters.
P
jhv 41
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Amberg, Can you tell me how many pages are in the D.50/1 original you have?
I may be able to get a 267 page digitally converted version. At this time, I am not sure if it will be in a pdf file and if so it will be super large or I may be able to get it on a CD.
If I can get this and it is complete, maybe some of you guys want a copy?
I may be able to get a 267 page digitally converted version. At this time, I am not sure if it will be in a pdf file and if so it will be super large or I may be able to get it on a CD.
If I can get this and it is complete, maybe some of you guys want a copy?
I would like a copy! I have an original, complete, 1942 edition with updates. It is at least 259 pages and has updated pages; pistols, rifles, SMGs, bayonets, cleaning kits. I was going to get mine scanned like that and was talking to Pat about it. I had talked to some folks about getting together to split costs of a searchable quality PDF copy of mine.
It would appear so...!
I'm in. Just let me know where to send the price of admission. I think Ham's idea of a searchable copy is great, but I have no idea what that would entail. Please keep me posted. Thanks again!
Pat
This. I have a hard time reading that sometimes.
Jon Speed contacted me to let me know there was actually a total reproduction of the book " by firm Klemens W. Künnke. Its done in similar type of Brown paper and has 383 pages of rifles, handguns, Blades etc."
So that's another option if you can find one.
So that's another option if you can find one.
I have this one: http://www.amazon.de/Kennblätter-Fremden-Geräts-Nachschlagewerk-Beute-Handwaffen/dp/3837040429
Its a nice book, but I'd prefer something with a higher resolution.
Its a nice book, but I'd prefer something with a higher resolution.
BerlinerLuebecker
Senior Member
Maybe this?
http://www.amazon.de/Kennblätter-Fr...955&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=kennblätter+fremdes
Review mentions that some entries are still missing. Sounds like a neat project, if there is a way to verify that one has all the entries.
Sorry, the pages are not numbered.
The latest change is dated October 1943 (I think), have to dig it out.
Nigromontanus
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The last (eleventh) supplement was dated November 1943, with Italian guns.
You are right.
Looks like my copy is complete till November 1943 with all the Italian stuff.
Thanks
The reproduction on Amazon has pages dated 1.10.44 (American).
Here is another reproduction: http://www.kennblaetter.de
No idea how complete it may or may not be, or if they even still make them.
