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K98A Erfurt 1918 White Lettering

John4022

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Hi everyone, please excuse my poor photos. Took them in a hurry and I don't own the rifle so I'm unable to retake them. My main question is if this white lettering looks wartime or post war done by a collector. I'm debating about pursuing this one but I'm more of a patch guy and know squat about guns so I joined up here.

Thank you in advance and for looking!
-John
 

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The white lettering is usually just white chalk or crayon. Some collectors do it to highlight the markings so they are more visible, it's easily removable. Also looks like a nice carbine if the price is good!
Thank you sir! These are all the photos I have at this time. Excuse my ignorance but what is a going rate for a all matching example (from what I can tell)? I keep seeing anywhere from $500 to $2k.
 
Thank you sir! These are all the photos I have at this time. Excuse my ignorance but what is a going rate for an all matching example (from what I can tell)? I keep seeing anywhere from $500 to $2k.
It depends on the sellers knowledge and understanding of the current market. If it’s a guy that has been living under a rock with no Internet, $500. If it is a hard-core collector probably close to $1.5-2k
 
Scarce in this condition.... these are not common in "Imperial" state, if the whole follows what is shown I think Krukster is in the ballpark but I am stuck in the late 90's-2000's on price appreciation...
 
Well here she is! Naturally, the day I get it its raining outside so I had to try my best with indoor lighting. Not really happy with the glares but hopefully this will work. All looks matching from what I can see but I haven't taken it apart yet. Again thank you for everyone that helped me, I would have been lost without you guys. Much appreciated!

Please let me know if you guys need more pictures of anything. The bore looks good as well.
 

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I ended up taking off the white lettering. Looks a ton better.
Excellent. I always recommend anyone remove it; it just looks bad... especially on Gew98s with white receivers. It serves no purpose anymore now that books are in color. Fakers often used it to cover their tracks too (makes it harder to tell if markings/finish are original, especially on lugers.)
 
Excellent. I always recommend anyone remove it; it just looks bad... especially on Gew98s with white receivers. It serves no purpose anymore now that books are in color. Fakers often used it to cover their tracks too (makes it harder to tell if markings/finish are original, especially on lugers.)
It also makes me nervous from a preservation standpoint. The ones where it was filled in with wax or enamel aren't as big an issue, but the chalk always seemed a major rust risk for me.
 
It also makes me nervous from a preservation standpoint. The ones where it was filled in with wax or enamel aren't as big an issue, but the chalk always seemed a major rust risk for me.
Yeah I've always questioned whether or not the folks that use paint or chalk especially think about any potential for damaging finish as the paint ages. I'm not a chemist by any stretch, but depending on the paint I would imagine there is some risk. I just remove it on sight-- a stiff brass brush is usually all that's needed
 
Looks much better without the white. Congrats on finding a good Kar and thanks for the photos, i added it to the reference.
 
Yeah I've always questioned whether or not the folks that use paint or chalk especially think about any potential for damaging finish as the paint ages. I'm not a chemist by any stretch, but depending on the paint I would imagine there is some risk. I just remove it on sight-- a stiff brass brush is usually all that's needed
The really stuck on stuff often responds well to rubbing it with penetrating oil. Not even really soaking it, just putting a bunch on a finger and rubbing it on the markings and leaving them wet for a day. If a little bit is able to work its way under an edge that can loosen it enough for the brush to do its job.
 
Been some time since i had to do it, but last time i removed whitening i covered the receiver in Ballistol, let it soak in, then scraped it out with a toothpick. Same way i clean out screw head slots and the markings on rear sight bases.
 
Welcome to the forum! A solid first pickup. A very nice beech stock and beech handguard to boot... About halfway through 1918 production at this S/N I'm guessing, and it's all there too. For $1250 you did well I think. Sorry I missed this post before.
 

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