We must have
I agree and Stephan, your presence and contributions here have been of significant value to the knowledge base and hobby as a whole.
A large K98 and other German Rifles collection has come into my local GD
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We must have
I agree and Stephan, your presence and contributions here have been of significant value to the knowledge base and hobby as a whole.
ncreptile
Senior Member
By the very fencing sword that carved his face up. Its priceless, buy it quickly.
ncreptile
Senior Member
Caveat Emptor
Plenty of older guys who bought a book or two but avoid the internet and technology like a vampire being offered garlic toast. These are the folks that purchased such things and continue to purchase them. Likely who purchased that in the store. They'll never know it was fake and because they spent so much if they are ever told it's humped they will dig a deep hole defending their purchase as legitimate.
That's why forums with constantly updating information with the best minds on the subject is such a value. 5 minutes of research would have saved someone a whole lot of money.
Plenty of older guys who bought a book or two but avoid the internet and technology like a vampire being offered garlic toast. These are the folks that purchased such things and continue to purchase them. Likely who purchased that in the store. They'll never know it was fake and because they spent so much if they are ever told it's humped they will dig a deep hole defending their purchase as legitimate.
That's why forums with constantly updating information with the best minds on the subject is such a value. 5 minutes of research would have saved someone a whole lot of money.
Warrior1354
ax - hole
I just want to say I guess whoever bought that SS rifle out of this old collection thought they could make some money and put it on GunBroker. Turns out no bids were put on it. Being discussed on Dave's World War II weapons forum. Of course the description is laughable saying it came out of an old foot locker and the skull was done by an SS Soldier.
grimlin13
Senior Member
The buyer must be an idiot or greedy or both.To try to sell it and not realize that there is an internet where people ( some of them anyway) can research things such as this. Also not thinking about how the collector world is. Something like this rifle would draw attention. The guys who know would be on it ( as they have been here) and determine if it is legit or not. Although, with a carving in the stock like that even a bayo guy would know BS when he sees it. Reminds me of the bayonet with A.H. carved into the grip and the claim it was Hitlers.
pzjgr
EOD - bombs and bullets
Did anyone copy it? Its gone now....would've loved to see that description...
That's for sale too in that grouping? Amazing.
Warrior1354
ax - hole
He's the same seller that bought the G41m with problems for $13,000. He's trying to sell it with a bunch of hyperbole like some rare stock modification. I'm surprised he didn't say this was used by German mountain troops due to the G 33/40 buttplate on it.
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
Honestly I hope he chokes on the both of them. It would serve him right. Sounds like the Uncommonwealth playbook. I'd like to have seen the ads just for the comedy value.
kampfy
Senior Member
The ad for the g41(m) is still up.
Search for g41m mountain division and you should find it.
No sign of the mauser with the ss art installation though.
This add is the dealer who is selling these Guns from this estate collection. He is listing them as the family has agreed on pricing. A Guy put a Deposit on the ss Rifle and This G41 but never returned. He is only doing what the Family asked. No one owns these Guns at this moment.
I know all the experts are having a field day with this bit the truth is. This collection is being sold by a local dealer who has to sell them at agreed prices from the family. No one involved is by any means an expert on K98,s or Nazi stuff. There was a Gentleman who came in and put the ss Gun and The G41 on hold. I believe he has bot returned and now some are being put on Gunbroker. Affordable is only the middle man who only gets a small percentage of each sale.
pzjgr
EOD - bombs and bullets
Well, unfortunately the family is apparently a bunch of idiots who are wildly ill/un-informed....
Warrior1354
ax - hole
I understand you'd could be selling the rifles for an estate. My problem is where are you getting the $13,000 price tag on a G41m with a lot of problems? Where are you getting the $5,500 price tag on an SS rifle with problems?
pzjgr
EOD - bombs and bullets
He said the family set the prices...where they are getting them???
Not to be mean, but I hope they don't sell a one...because humped crap gets out at those prices, and then thats the new price to the uniformed and unknowing...
Warrior1354
ax - hole
Yeah I hate to break the bad news to folks but people need to know the truth. I know what they're thinking they saw guns like this sell for over that amount of money and they think will ours must be worth that. And I know people hate to hear the truth facts but these aren't even worth close to that because they have been humped, pimp shine, and aggressively cleaned. I know folks want to sell this type of stuff and get the most money for the estate but with stuff like this you're not going to get rich off them.
Someone please tell me what is wrong with the G41 so I can explain to my friend dealer what he is getting himself into.I dont own one or know anything about them. But he is only doing what the Estate has asked him to do. Facts that I will explain to him so he doesnt look like the fool in this sale. I will say thou, Seeing Mitchell's, doing 800-1k now and shows getting crazy prices for miss matched throw togethers and RUSSIAN captures doing 1k+ People are spending more and more. I agree with all of you but I know people have more money than brains and a lot of Dealers know this. My friend is only getting set commissions to move all these peices at the Estates pricing.
GunKraut
Senior Member
The stocks of nearly all the rifles shown have either been smoothed or pimp shined or bleached to the point of being eye sores. And you can imagine the "improvements" didn't stop there, the SS skull, the fake G33/40 shield which leaves a huge gap between stock and cap, the list goes on and on. I question the blueing on all of the rifles.
Your friend seems to be way over his head into this train wreck. Is he usually dabbling in AR15 or why does he seem to have absolutely no clue about the WWII junk he's peddling? If his reputation gets tarnished, he has nobody to blame but himself. Either he's totally clueless and takes for gospel what the estate told him or he's a steam talker, aiming at moving inventory for maximum profit by spewing off lots of hyperbole. Typical example (K43 qve45):
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/821804078
Right from the start: Yes, the receiver (pistols have "frames") is very late but qve didn't use to be bcd, qve was the late war designation for Berlin Lübecker Maschinenfabrik after dropping the duv code. Nothing to do with bcd, but it sure sounds nice from a sales perspective because bcd=$$$$$$$$.
"Souvenir at the liberated factory in this unfinished stage by a GI". Yes, everybody wants a bringback, because bringback=$$$$$$$$$$. That explains the ridiculous price of $1,300 for this hacked up piece of marred junk. Wear on the hammer and the bolt shows it has been operated a lot, I don't believe the GI sat in his living room watching the Ed Griffin show while racking his "liberated unfinished" receiver 2,000 times in order to cause this kind of wear. If the rifle has a firing proof, it has been test fired, meaning it had a barrel at one point, this should settle the story of unfinished capture. And BTW, the bcd factory was not liberated, it was pulverized by RAF air raids, there were no "souvenirs" left when the first American GI's showed up 8 months later. As for BLM, when the Brits took over the facility, they found parts but barely any complete rifle. You noticed I said "Brits"? There were no GI's "liberating" BLM.
Those "little scratch marks by probably a vice as shown" are actually bite marks and were done to the receiver when some idiot put it in a vise trying to pound the barrel out. I specifically said "idiot" as the barrel is press fit into the receiver and clamping it down in a vise will make it even harder to drive the barrel out. Although, it also may have been clamped in a vise in order to saw the barrel off for a sporter project. Luckily, the idiot marks will be partially hidden below the wood line, giving a loving K43 enthusiast an excuse for rebuilding this fragment of a rifle in order to restore some of its decency.
Nothing wrong with the Danish mag. It's just fine, made on German machinery, just not made by Germans.
"NO California sales". Well, f*** him then. If he doesn't want to help/support gun collectors in CA because some idiots in this state (not us gun collectors) voted in a socialist government aiming at reducing the number of guns in this state, your friend is part of the problem because he's playing into our socialist enemies' hands.
Feel free to share this with your friend from AffordableFirearms.
Your friend seems to be way over his head into this train wreck. Is he usually dabbling in AR15 or why does he seem to have absolutely no clue about the WWII junk he's peddling? If his reputation gets tarnished, he has nobody to blame but himself. Either he's totally clueless and takes for gospel what the estate told him or he's a steam talker, aiming at moving inventory for maximum profit by spewing off lots of hyperbole. Typical example (K43 qve45):
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/821804078
Right from the start: Yes, the receiver (pistols have "frames") is very late but qve didn't use to be bcd, qve was the late war designation for Berlin Lübecker Maschinenfabrik after dropping the duv code. Nothing to do with bcd, but it sure sounds nice from a sales perspective because bcd=$$$$$$$$.
"Souvenir at the liberated factory in this unfinished stage by a GI". Yes, everybody wants a bringback, because bringback=$$$$$$$$$$. That explains the ridiculous price of $1,300 for this hacked up piece of marred junk. Wear on the hammer and the bolt shows it has been operated a lot, I don't believe the GI sat in his living room watching the Ed Griffin show while racking his "liberated unfinished" receiver 2,000 times in order to cause this kind of wear. If the rifle has a firing proof, it has been test fired, meaning it had a barrel at one point, this should settle the story of unfinished capture. And BTW, the bcd factory was not liberated, it was pulverized by RAF air raids, there were no "souvenirs" left when the first American GI's showed up 8 months later. As for BLM, when the Brits took over the facility, they found parts but barely any complete rifle. You noticed I said "Brits"? There were no GI's "liberating" BLM.
Those "little scratch marks by probably a vice as shown" are actually bite marks and were done to the receiver when some idiot put it in a vise trying to pound the barrel out. I specifically said "idiot" as the barrel is press fit into the receiver and clamping it down in a vise will make it even harder to drive the barrel out. Although, it also may have been clamped in a vise in order to saw the barrel off for a sporter project. Luckily, the idiot marks will be partially hidden below the wood line, giving a loving K43 enthusiast an excuse for rebuilding this fragment of a rifle in order to restore some of its decency.
Nothing wrong with the Danish mag. It's just fine, made on German machinery, just not made by Germans.
"NO California sales". Well, f*** him then. If he doesn't want to help/support gun collectors in CA because some idiots in this state (not us gun collectors) voted in a socialist government aiming at reducing the number of guns in this state, your friend is part of the problem because he's playing into our socialist enemies' hands.
Feel free to share this with your friend from AffordableFirearms.
Preach it, brother!
