Zeiss prewar LT mount with more pictures

[JACKDANIELS]

Hello
Here is a scope that belongs to a friend, your opinions are welcome,
What does your know about this unit-issue? see photo on page 219 of the Senich
thank's

 

[biggymu]

Can’t help but notice the patina is absent where the engraving is and what looks to be minute scratches. Just an observation.

 

[Philip]

I suspect that the scope and the markings date some years before its installation in that mount, which may have been very early like 1940ish. I would think that the scope and unit mark predate the mid 1930s at least a little bit.

 

[Xavier]

Hi Jackdaniels
Can you ask to tour friend to make better pictures, especially of mounts ? The light is just awful.
Is the dial meter made of brass or steel ?
If I am not wrong the scopes initially issued to the reischwer ( tube markings) at the end of the 20’s were in the 19xxx to 21xxxx serial range.
Best regards

 

[Absolut]

The position of the scope rings is unusual and would result in wrong eye relief for the shooter. Additionally they are very roughly milled on the outside, what is unusual for early scope rings.

The engraving on the tube IMHO is too large, also I only know this from Reichswehr scopes. If it was a Reichswehr recycled scope, then it though would be in the mentioned serial range, as well as have different elevation markings and the additional disc on the elevation.

Overall not sure if I could trust that item..

Edit: rear ring has roll pin instead of screw, so late HT feature too. And the serial it is in, for whatever may happened later in its life, it at least for certain started its life as commercial scope.

 

[pwcosol]

The issue marking on the scope is likely 6th Infantry Regiment, 7th Company, Waffe Nr. 109.

 

[JACKDANIELS]

The position of the scope rings is unusual and would result in wrong eye relief for the shooter. Additionally they are very roughly milled on the outside, what is unusual for early scope rings.

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yes that's what i told him

In fact we discussed on a French forum and it was me who asked for pictures of the scope
He is not a seller and only has this scope
I pointed out to him that the rings had traces of machining like late rings and I asked him where he got it, here is his answer:



You want the history of this glasses?

Well it's very simple, my grandfather lived in Antibes, and in 1944 during the debacle a German tumbled into the property, in fact my grandfather who was a reserve officer of Alpine hunters, told me that it was Austrians, he asked him for a bicycle pump and my grandfather asked him for his rifle in exchange.

I found in the attic a haversack containing 10 packets of cartridges, the scope, the gun...

45 years ago we were playing with the admunition's, and one day my grandfather found out, he gave everything to a fisherman friend so that it all ended up in the sea.

I was able to recover the scope and I already had the intuition 40 years ago that it was a rare weapon...

And when I look at this scope, I think of the rifle, of this Austrian on a bicycle and I imagine that the scope rifle assembly must have been at the same number!

There, you see it's a story that I will never forget and my grandfather died in 1982


I ask him for detailed photos of the mount

 

[Xavier]

Is the dial meter made of steel or brass ?

 

[JACKDANIELS]

Hello xavier.
Brass for the dial meter

 

[Xavier]

Hello xavier.
Brass for the dial meter

Zielvier LT have dial meter numbered 1 to 8 made from steel not from brass.

 

[Absolut]

Thanks for nevertheless sharing it. A nice story. But to get to the point - even if it was true ...

I was able to recover the scope and I already had the intuition 40 years ago that it was a rare weapon...

Who knows that the scope he got "back by then" was the actual scope his grandfather gave away, and not a reproduction the fisherman instead handed back?

Overall, there are so many things wrong about it, that even leaving out that story he told, it would not be correct.

 

[JACKDANIELS]

I'm just passing on the subject

he must take detailed photos of the mounts

 

[JACKDANIELS]

Hello
News pictures
I will still ask more for more details