What Is It ???
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Absolut
Senior Member
I'd love to see it out of the stock, as well as better pictures of the stamps on the receiver - maybe with natural daylight and not cellar light?
Small comment, since not mentioned before: the "Mod.98" designation on the receiver is offset to the right and not in the middle, as it should be.
Small comment, since not mentioned before: the "Mod.98" designation on the receiver is offset to the right and not in the middle, as it should be.
Cyrano4747
Well-known member
Yeah, lots of valuable """armorer's parts""" there, to say nothing of the less savory way those unnumbered parts get used.
edit: it also makes me wonder how many of these came in half a century+ ago but just weren't remarked on, the same way this gun ended up in the back of a safe, and then got parted out in the 80s or 90s by people who wanted to "improve" other rifles.
Mauserguy85
Well-known member
This is very cool.
Absolut
Senior Member
Have another addition: the few commercials documented all tend to have some markings on the barrel, meaning years, steel lot codes, manufacturers, etc. The fact that this barrel on the outside is seemingly absolutely void makes me think more likely post war assembled for a GI rather than a commercial production rifle that was captured pre firing proof. But would need to see the metal under the woodline if truly void of markings.
DaveDavis
Well-known member
Under sunlight there are markings / It is a commercial gun / used white out for numbers / numbers on receiver a so small and so faint you can not read them under magnification.
Small eagle N in front numbers on receiver / numbers on barrel visible w/ white out / no wonder my old eyes could not see them last night
Small eagle N in front numbers on receiver / numbers on barrel visible w/ white out / no wonder my old eyes could not see them last night
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Bigdibbs88
"Ach du lieber!"
8-44 commercial gun, nice!
Mauserguy85
Well-known member
What’s an example like this worth?
Aaron
Senior Member
We’ll find out when it goes up for sale
Nice example! However i am curious, who would have been able to order one of these commercial K98's? Party members/leaders?
Absolut
Senior Member
Samples for other commercially proofed K98k rifles:
www.k98kforum.com
www.k98kforum.com
www.k98kforum.com
www.k98kforum.com
www.k98kforum.com
These are also covered in Vol.III starting page 326.
I think these might not be super rare ("just rare"), but many may just miss the commercial proofs and differences those have to actual service rifles.
1943 commercial K98k
This came out of a hotel buy many years ago. It's got plenty of wear and some abusive cleaning. It even has a couple of Imperial parts in it.
www.k98kforum.com
Yet another bcd4 commercial K98k
Well, guess what .. after last September I stumbled upon a commercially proofed bcd4 rifle (see this thread: http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?37913-Commercially-proofed-bcd4-coded-K98k ) I ran into its brother. The rifle from September was serial 1152, and I now found serial 1177 - so...
www.k98kforum.com
Commercially proofed bcd4 coded K98k
Introduction: Attending a very small gun show today where I bought absolutely nothing on the way back home I decided to give an antiques dealer a call, asking whether he currently has something which could be of interest to me. He denied and said I know all, I nevertheless visited him and we...
www.k98kforum.com
Sauer Commercial
Rather than spill the beans on this one, figured I'd make it fun. If you ran across this at a funshow, would you know what it is? Tell yourself what you think it is and I'm sure by the time we get to post 4-5 it will be revealed by people that know. I'll just post pics of what you could see on a...
www.k98kforum.com
Late War Sauer Commercial
Blindly stumbled onto this yesterday. Late war Sauer commercial. A few details for the record keepers......stock and handguard are internally numbered (stock is 43 dated in the channel), stock exterior totally devoid of markings, e subc FP, all sight parts numbered, both bands l subc...
www.k98kforum.com
These are also covered in Vol.III starting page 326.
I think these might not be super rare ("just rare"), but many may just miss the commercial proofs and differences those have to actual service rifles.
Looks like I really need to find volume 3 and add it too my library.Samples for other commercially proofed K98k rifles:
1943 commercial K98k
This came out of a hotel buy many years ago. It's got plenty of wear and some abusive cleaning. It even has a couple of Imperial parts in it.Yet another bcd4 commercial K98k
Well, guess what .. after last September I stumbled upon a commercially proofed bcd4 rifle (see this thread: http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?37913-Commercially-proofed-bcd4-coded-K98k ) I ran into its brother. The rifle from September was serial 1152, and I now found serial 1177 - so...Commercially proofed bcd4 coded K98k
Introduction: Attending a very small gun show today where I bought absolutely nothing on the way back home I decided to give an antiques dealer a call, asking whether he currently has something which could be of interest to me. He denied and said I know all, I nevertheless visited him and we...Sauer Commercial
Rather than spill the beans on this one, figured I'd make it fun. If you ran across this at a funshow, would you know what it is? Tell yourself what you think it is and I'm sure by the time we get to post 4-5 it will be revealed by people that know. I'll just post pics of what you could see on a...Late War Sauer Commercial
Blindly stumbled onto this yesterday. Late war Sauer commercial. A few details for the record keepers......stock and handguard are internally numbered (stock is 43 dated in the channel), stock exterior totally devoid of markings, e subc FP, all sight parts numbered, both bands l subc...
These are also covered in Vol.III starting page 326.
I think these might not be super rare ("just rare"), but many may just miss the commercial proofs and differences those have to actual service rifles.
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
I am 48 years late, but belated congratulations on your rare Sauer & Sohn "Commercial"
I know my answer sounds very strange, but the Germans built these "Commercial" rifles because the K98k's were so badly needed at the front.
When I have more time, I could explain the reasons.
biggymu
Well-known member
I had 3 of these (one a RC that I sold last year).
For the Russians to catch them they must have seen some action. Probably the Volksturm.