Can I get some info on this bayonet? I’m stumped as there are no markings on the bayonet itself but a serial number of 6259 on the scabbard. The frog has a marking on the back but it is so vague I cannot discern what it is. Trace amounts of cosmoline are present. The same pawn shop also had a k98k bayonet with russian stamp marks, both items have me stumped but I purchased this one for 125
Unmarked k98K bayonet
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grimlin13
Senior Member
More and closer pics would help on a definite answer. Just from what you say it sounds like a behoerden (commercial) bayonet paired with standard battle issued S84/98 III scabbard. Looks like the blade has been sharpened, not a good thing, hurts value. The stamp on back of frog is the rbn number (code number for frog maker) We have members who can tell you who the frog maker is, maybe one will show up.
Regarding the contract# on the frog, I have one "0/0378/0005". Configuration is the same as yours as well. A interesting sidebar is the back is also stamped with two small "SS" runes close to a date below of "43". That frog is posted here (UM11-12):
https://www.k98kforum.com/showthrea...ings-on-Standard-Frogs&highlight=German+Frogs
https://www.k98kforum.com/showthrea...ings-on-Standard-Frogs&highlight=German+Frogs
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@grimlin13 @pwcosol here is Everything after cleaning the bayonet and conditioning the leather. Once the leather drys out I think the roll marks on the back will pop out more. The frog was pretty much devoid of any moisture. Im new to bayonets, how much would the frog go for?
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grimlin13
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Exactly what did you put on the leather? It may end up doing more harm than good. Leather treatments can break down the leather`s cell structure and cause the leather to degrade. Plus it can cause the stamping to push out and be lost. I know from experience. While I never used any saddle soaps or leather treatments to soften or clean my leather items, I did use pure lanoline on a few items. I wish I had not now. It darkened the leather, left it oily feeling and looking, plus pushed out some of the maker stamping to the extent where it is gone.
There have been several discussions about treating leather here on the forum. I think the consensus is that the best thing to do is basically nothing more than wipe the leather off with a slightly damp cloth or paper towel. I now lightly spray Windex on a paper towel (not directly on leather) just enough to slightly dampen (not dripping wet) one section of the paper towel. I fold it in half and then in half again, then squeeze it in my hand to disperse the Windex though out paper towel. Then I wipe leather off. I do not scrub. Most of the dirt will come off the surface. I do not have to wait for the leather to dry because it is not wet (soaked) from anything. Then I use a clean soft cloth to buff out the leather to a degree, again not scrubbing but lightly wiping.
I hope your frog is not damaged from whatever you did to it. Time will (and does) tell.
Too bad about the grinding done on the blade. Looks like a nice bayonet other than that.
There have been several discussions about treating leather here on the forum. I think the consensus is that the best thing to do is basically nothing more than wipe the leather off with a slightly damp cloth or paper towel. I now lightly spray Windex on a paper towel (not directly on leather) just enough to slightly dampen (not dripping wet) one section of the paper towel. I fold it in half and then in half again, then squeeze it in my hand to disperse the Windex though out paper towel. Then I wipe leather off. I do not scrub. Most of the dirt will come off the surface. I do not have to wait for the leather to dry because it is not wet (soaked) from anything. Then I use a clean soft cloth to buff out the leather to a degree, again not scrubbing but lightly wiping.
I hope your frog is not damaged from whatever you did to it. Time will (and does) tell.
Too bad about the grinding done on the blade. Looks like a nice bayonet other than that.
Zeppelin5000
Senior Member
I mentioned to the OP on Reddit that this may be a "blanko" bayonet, produced for export.
I agree that the leather should have been left alone... adding treatments to leather and wood do more harm than good on militaria.
I agree that the leather should have been left alone... adding treatments to leather and wood do more harm than good on militaria.
luftpirate
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Start a new thread and post ample pictures.
