To restore, or leave alone bcd4 lsr

Mwilko7

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New to the forum, so hello. I recently acquired my great uncles bring back from Europe. My grandfather unfortunately thought it was ugly and this is the finished product.. let me know if this is worth restoring, or if it's too far gone. Also, I'm green to Mausers. Any insight is appreciated!!
 

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As someone who has been looking for a good Gustloff LSR for a few years every time I see one sporterized it makes me cringe.

I would say yes it is worth restoring, but it will be a difficult job.

What needs to be done is:
-Strip bluing and resphosphate
-Get a new LSR cut stock (most difficult part)
-Get an original base
-Put a new front sight on as this one looks to have been cut.
 
Well its got a sniper safety and screw holes in the thick left reciever wall>Jeweled bolt is a minus.
 
To me, just leave it be. It was your grandfather's rifle and he is the one who finished it the way he liked. He served and brought this rifle home as a trophy. It was his right to refinish it. I would keep it that way to remember him.

Not to mention it will be very expensive to restore and will not be worth what it will cost to restore it.
 
To me, just leave it be. It was your grandfather's rifle and he is the one who finished it the way he liked. He served and brought this rifle home as a trophy. It was his right to refinish it. I would keep it that way to remember him.

Not to mention it will be very expensive to restore and will not be worth what it will cost to restore it.
I think it was his great uncle who brought it home and his grandfather that made the changes. While I agree with mdarnell, I’d restore it if it wasn’t your great uncle who did this to it.

It would get spendy, but it’d be cool to have the rifle your uncle brought back again. Do you know if anyone in the family has the optic and mount? That would seal the deal on restoring it, to me anyways.
 
Oh yes, I see. If who ever brought it home did the work, then leave it be. If not, maybe restore it. But again, restoring it will be like rebuilding a vintage car. It will be expensive and you will never get your money back out of it.
 
Thank you guys so much! I asked my grandfather today during our family dinner and he said " How did you know there was a mount?" Turns out whoever did the work on the rifle snagged it. My heart sank. Also, the stock does not have the takedown disks, as well as the optic relief is cut crudely. Do you think the stock was swapped out for later one?
 
Thank you guys so much! I asked my grandfather today during our family dinner and he said " How did you know there was a mount?" Turns out whoever did the work on the rifle snagged it. My heart sank. Also, the stock does not have the takedown disks, as well as the optic relief is cut crudely. Do you think the stock was swapped out for later one?
Stock looks to be the original.

Here is a picture of how the base cut should look (albeit this is from a 3 hole rifle stock, but same difference).
 

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I would also guess that the stock is original. We've seen lsr rifles with no take down disk. Rare but they exist.

In addition to the parts that are missing, the entire rifle looks polished and refinished. This will be difficult to undo.

Here is our thread on Long Side Rails. You see what your rifle originally would have looked like
 
Stock looks to be the original.

Here is a picture of how the base cut should look (albeit this is from a 3 hole rifle stock, but same difference).

I would also guess that the stock is original. We've seen lsr rifles with no take down disk. Rare but they exist.

In addition to the parts that are missing, the entire rifle looks polished and refinished. This will be difficult to undo.
I agree, it was sanded to remove the mill markings
 

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What is the serial number? There is a chance it was a three whole rifle and never had scope mount/base. Unlucky with that stock but possible.
 
What serial range do you see the 3 holes in? Later in production I suppose?
There are some before long side rail production (which starts in the 30k range if I remember correctly) but most are late (4,000 serial range and later). I personally wouldn’t buy a LSR later then 4-5k Because it is most likely a three whole rifle that some one finished.
 
I personally wouldn’t buy a LSR later then 4-5k Because it is most likely a three whole rifle that some one finished.
You must have some good hard data on finished three hole rifles to use the term "most likely". Could you please share your data with the community?
 
You must have some good hard data on finished three hole rifles to use the term "most likely". Could you please share your data with the community?
Not really that difficult. Looking at original scope mounts is the key. Never seen original scope mounts outside of these ranges. If you have one later or earlier then please share.
 
Not really that difficult. Looking at original scope mounts is the key. Never seen original scope mounts outside of these ranges. If you have one later or earlier then please share.
That logic mixes tangerines with oranges. You were writing about rifles and now you switched to mounts. I have seen an original LSR rifle well above that serial number range.

Other possible explanations:

  • The last LSR rifles could have been issued with recycled mounts.
  • The last LSR's could have been mated with unnumbered mounts.
  • The last LSR rifles could have been manufactured but not yet mated with a mount at wars end.
While I do not doubt there are three holes that have been finished after the war, Your theory, that all LSR's with serial numbers after 4-5k are finished three holes, is wrong.
 
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