SS tunics I used to own.

[tokarev38]

Since we have few threads on SS tunics going on I am presenting photos of two that I used to own. I sold them few years ago after I decided to leave tunic collecting after few years of active interest in them.
First one was documented and named SS- obersturmfuhrer tunic named to Arthur Morgenbrod. It came with loads of pictures, documents and letters as a grouping including two pictures of original owner wearing such tunic. Originally he was a police officer that transferred to SS in March 1943. He joined artillery 88s regiment of Das Reich division, took part in Kursk battle to be killed on Mius front in August 1943. After he was killed all his stuff was mailed to family, put in a box to resurface in late 80s. All was in untouched state, tunic still had embedded dirt particles and grease stains.

 

[DaveDavis]

Very nice

 

[tokarev38]

Second one was M43 Rottenfuhrer from SS-Reichsfuhrung. It was an attic find in Nebraska. It was found in the box with pants, M43 cap, Allgemeine hat and US service uniform of the veteran who brought it back. It had proper mouse grey piped boards indicating Himmler staff. Since tunic was only lightly worn, I took some pictures under USB microscope showing micro wear signs on insignia as part of my study of that tunic. Those micro wear signs are very important in determining if insignia was wearing while on the tunic, not applied later as a restoration procedure.

 

[DaveDavis]

Again, very nice

 

[DaveDavis]

WWII German Army Panzer Trousers

WWII German Army Panzer Trousers-These private purchase trousers are the style that would be worn with the panzer wrapper. They are produced in black wool and are in excellent condition. The lower legs have a buckle and strap closures. There are scalloped flaps on the hip pockets and the rear...

www.therupturedduck.com

You have to ask yourself what makes these privately made, one of a kind, PANZER ????? Except for his declaration, which, IMHO, means nothing, there is no way to prove that statement. They could very well be period produced ski trousers. But Shea owns them so they must be REAL !!!!!

 

[Bigdibbs88]

Man, I would be very hard pressed to let either of those go

 

[Philip]

WWII German Army Panzer Trousers

WWII German Army Panzer Trousers-These private purchase trousers are the style that would be worn with the panzer wrapper. They are produced in black wool and are in excellent condition. The lower legs have a buckle and strap closures. There are scalloped flaps on the hip pockets and the rear...

www.therupturedduck.com

You have to ask yourself what makes these privately made, one of a kind, PANZER ????? Except for his declaration, which, IMHO, means nothing, there is no way to prove that statement. They could very well be period produced ski trousers. But Shea owns them so they must be REAL !!!!!

I fully agree with you. They are not the correct cut in the ankles for panzer trousers nor do the details strike me as tailor made. They look like production made ski trousers either pre war or perhaps late 40s-50s. Officers could and did wear some variation cut uniforms but these do not seem officer type item to me and EM nor NCO would want something so non regulation not would it be allowed for an EM IMO

 

[DaveDavis]

But Bill Shea is ALWAYS 100% Correct !!!!!!

 

[Philip]

But Bill Shea is ALWAYS 100% Correct !!!!!!

Collectors of anything make a very big mistake when they choose to draft behind one or two (or 10) big names particularly dealers in whatever field they are collecting.

 

[DaveDavis]

Collectors of anything make a very big mistake when they choose to draft behind one or two (or 10) big names particularly dealers in whatever field they are collecting.

100% correct //// do your research and be careful

 

[tokarev38]

Many advanced SS collectors know other collectors and what pieces are in which collection. That’s why same items circle around between collections as time passes by for decades in some cases. When I was collecting SS tunics I tried to establish chain of ownership of each of them till the moment when they were discovered and entered collector market. Many people do that as originality verification procedure. Some good tunics make it to dealers, but not that often and many of them as consignment, not direct purchases. When large collection gets liquidated, it ends up in major auction, like Dave Delich’s collection right now. Anything that popped out recently, especially on dealer’s site, regardless how good it looks is always suspicious and difficult to authenticate.

 

[CanadianAR]

Those two groups are friggen insane!! Wow

 

[tokarev38]

Few records from Dave Delich’s auction for those who think that K98s are too expensive so they can feel better. That camo hat is one of five known with originally attached camo insignia. Oh, and they have 29% commission.

 

[mauser202]

Few records from Dave Delich’s auction for those who think that K98s are too expensive so they can feel better. That camo hat is one of five known with originally attached camo insignia. Oh, and they have 29% commission.

Is that Euros? So with the juice someone paid $138,000 for a cap?

 

[tokarev38]

Is that Euros? So with the juice someone paid $138,000 for a cap?

That’s correct. Since items are in US any European buyer would pay 30% duty/tax on top of that. We here are “lucky”, only 10% in most places

 

[DaveDavis]

Is that Euros? So with the juice someone paid $138,000 for a cap?

Just an insane amount of money