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This mount was clearly renumbered after having been finished. Is it possible this was done in the factory? As far as I can tell the font looks good. I believe I have seen rifles with some parts renumbered at the factory. A BNZ 4 with the numbers on the bands restruck comes to mind.
 

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The over stamps I have seen on LSR Mounts have been a single digit mistake. I have a couple turret mounts with re-claimed rings. No LSR mounts that I have had or ever seen appear re-claimed.

The digit font looks OK, but it was re-numbered at some point to match a rifle. That's a personal call in my mind. Its always going to be a question.

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I agree with Herc. One the photo is blurry.. two the font would need to be studied. Having a four digit factory re-number would be very very scarce IMHO..

Looks like the mount was fully over stamped to match the rifle.
 
It would also help to have more photos of the whole rifle and mount. The U block scope mounts I have seen are machine ring. Is this one machine ring or banded? Heres a Sauer U Block machine ring.

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To me it looks like the numbers below the over stamp look more like the ones I posted. The over stamp numbers look thicker in this photo. I'd personally say not likely war time. At least I wouldn't be happy with it.

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Normally I would concur with the other opinions in here, what IMHO is weird is the fact that the below markings are almost gone, the surface has the perfect matching surface all over, and the fact that one can even make out the ghost of the "u" suffix". I'd need to see better pictures to allow a better assessment. Edit: or maybe what I think is "u" ghost might be a Fifth digit, so originally a Gustloff mount .. ?

The serial on the rifle itself also looks a bit scratched, for whatever reason.
 
I re-posted your photos as they are hard to see sideways and small. To me it looks as if the stock cut out is atypical. Does stock match rifle? More detailed photos of everything would be great. To me the mount looks forced match. It's a nice original mount though.

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Another difference, while not conclusive and simply an observation, non overstamped mounts have a consistent horizontal sanding grain that was achieved before the pin was installed. The over stamped example has some crosshatching to the right of the numbers. This may be because the pin was in the way
 
Edit: or maybe what I think is "u" ghost might be a Fifth digit, so originally a Gustloff mount .. ?
Gustloff did not use machine ring mounts or these type of DOW Scopes with milled sunshades. It’s a U block mount and not ghost.
 
Narrow Band LSR Mounts can also be found in the U suffix , not just Machined Ring Mounts . I would also point out just because no other LSR Mounts have been reported were all digits were over stamped that should not disqualify this one from possibly being a period recycled LSR Mount or any other from possible being a period renumbered mount. I am not saying this one IS period and I am not saying it IS not either .
Its a known fact that Mounts and Scopes were recycled so why not an LSR Mount .
 
Narrow Band LSR Mounts can also be found in the U suffix , not just Machined Ring Mounts . I would also point out just because no other LSR Mounts have been reported were all digits were over stamped that should not disqualify this one from possibly being a period recycled LSR Mount or any other from possible being a period renumbered mount. I am not saying this one IS period and I am not saying it IS not either .
Its a known fact that Mounts and Scopes were recycled so why not an LSR Mount .
Yes. I pointed that out in my first post. I personally have not seen a LSR recycled mount. Just ones that had a digit fixed like I posted. The recycled turret mounts I have seen had the number removed then re-stamped and not done like this LSR mount. To me the OP's LSR mount will always be called into question and I didn't like the numbers personally.
 
It would also help to have more photos of the whole rifle and mount. The U block scope mounts I have seen are machine ring. Is this one machine ring or banded? Heres a Sauer U Block machine ring.

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Brian heres your comment about U block Mounts . (The U block mounts I have seen are machine ring) . Which is why I made this comment (Narrow Band LSR Mounts can also be found in the U suffix , not just Machined Ring Mounts) . Some here may have taken your comment as meaning only Machined Rings mounts are found in U suffix/letter block . I wanted others to know that narrow band mounts can also be found in U suffix/letter block and not only machined ring LSR mounts .
 
Brian heres your comment about U block Mounts . (The U block mounts I have seen are machine ring) . Which is why I made this comment (Narrow Band LSR Mounts can also be found in the U suffix , not just Machined Ring Mounts) . Some here may have taken your comment as meaning only Machined Rings mounts are found in U suffix/letter block . I wanted others to know that narrow band mounts can also be found in U suffix/letter block and not only machined ring LSR mounts .
OK. I am sure that not every scope mount in the U block is a machine ring. I think that all the scope mounts with DOW milled sun shade scope are machine ring.
 
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Brian heres your comment about U block Mounts . (The U block mounts I have seen are machine ring) . Which is why I made this comment (Narrow Band LSR Mounts can also be found in the U suffix , not just Machined Ring Mounts) . Some here may have taken your comment as meaning only Machined Rings mounts are found in U suffix/letter block . I wanted others to know that narrow band mounts can also be found in U suffix/letter block and not only machined ring LSR mounts .
A lot of those U block mounts are machine ring, but I am sure not all. I said the ones I have seen. I have not seen them all and I have not seen your narrow band mount. These mounts are fairly rare and lucky you to have found a non-machine ring U block mount.
 

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