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S/147/G question

NathanLM

NathanLM

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I found a sporterized S/147/G at my local gun shop. The stock is a complete loss and the bolt is from something else, but the finish is immaculate. Barrel, receiver, front sight, rear sight (base, leaf, slider), floor plate, capture screws, follower and bolt release all match. So my question is...how much is this all worth? And should I try and restore it to something close to its former glory? Thanks in advance!
 
Usually if the bolt is mismatched and the stock is mismatched it cuts the value down alot due too the collector value. And I believe any sporterized K98k is worth bringing back too its former glory. I myself would like too own a piece like this because of the S/147 G code because their hard too find. But I would treat this one as a restored shooter more then a collectible piece. If the finish is original and it also has not been redone and its not a Russian capture or import marked piece. Without pictures I offer between $200-$300.
 
I am going back to the store tomorrow to pick up a P38 holster. The condition is truly spectacular, bluing slightly faded but completely even. Serial number is 7431 with a suffix but I honestly cant tell what the letter is supposed to be. Is there a chart I can reference to figure out this script? I know this is a rare code and that's what has me considering picking this up.
 
NathanLM said:
I am going back to the store tomorrow to pick up a P38 holster. The condition is truly spectacular, bluing slightly faded but completely even. Serial number is 7431 with a suffix but I honestly cant tell what the letter is supposed to be. Is there a chart I can reference to figure out this script? I know this is a rare code and that's what has me considering picking this up.
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Hello,

here you can look: JP Sauer fonts

Greetings,
Stephan
 
NathanLM said:
The code is on the top. Suggestions?
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It sounds like a 1935 second variation date code. I read where Sauer moved the date code from the side to the top in the b block, then changed again to a larger date code in the c block so it might be a rare find and something worth restoring and adding to the collection.
 
I would say, it's rather the third variant and not the second.

In my records the "S/147G" got moved to the top of the receiver in the beginning of "a" block and the font stayed small. In the end of "a" block the "S/147G" was in the bigger font, that's the 3rd variant.
 
Here fellas. For your viewing pleasure. What is the significance of the little star where the barrel mates with the receiver? My 1937 S/42 also has this.
 

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NathanLM said:
Here fellas. For your viewing pleasure. What is the significance of the little star where the barrel mates with the receiver? My 1937 S/42 also has this.
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It's a S/147/G 3rd variant, I was right with my guess.

The little star is a asterisk, a inspector reject mark. I think the barrel failed the first inspection and got accepted, after the flaw was corrected. I'm sure here are experts who know more about this topic.
 
The asterisks 8x57 mentions isn't usually on the barrel shoulder, but he is correct in the typical purpose. It is the original barrel, - as to value, more pictures would be helpful, but that finish looks original to me, it is a worthwhile barreled receiver to get hands on. As to value, Warrior is correct in that it depends on the sum of parts, - such things as this it really comes down to the sum of its parts. The right bolt can really make a difference, - a BSW bolt in nice condition can pull $300 all by itself.... SDP bolts are popular also, especially if you luck into a G12/34 bolt.

If the TG-FP is matching that helps value also, perhaps some of the stock parts are salvageable, - but you need to consider the parts to determine value. You should also consider possible problems, often sporters have the handguard lip ground down, some have alterations to the bridge, either make the rifle a poor candidate for a restoration.

Lastly, assuming this barreled receiver is problem free and has some matching parts, like the TG-FP, the bolt is at least original-matching, it is worth a lot more than a crummy, crappy, garbage rc, - fools pay $500 for them, and though this is doubtful worth more than $300, it is worth considering if the rest looks as good as what you have shown...

NathanLM said:
Here fellas. For your viewing pleasure. What is the significance of the little star where the barrel mates with the receiver? My 1937 S/42 also has this.
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Front sight, all rear sight components, floor plate, capture screws are in the same condition and matching. The bolt is some straight bolt that I'm not familiar with but definitely not correct.
 
Basically I'm going to need a new stock, bands, bolt...off the top of my not so knowledgeable head haha.
 
The handguard lip is often overlooked, but if fine that is good, - straight bolt could be G24t or G98, either is not bad, but neither probably as valuable as 98k. It really could be anything, Polish (which is good) to any number of less desirable variations from Europe.

I would try to keep an offer under $300, as you have a lot of parts to buy to make this presentable, the stock would be very hard to find, you probably would have to settle on a later year, - generally I do not recommend restorations, as they can be money pits and most often disappointments, but this one is tempting.

NathanLM said:
Front sight, all rear sight components, floor plate, capture screws are in the same condition and matching. The bolt is some straight bolt that I'm not familiar with but definitely not correct.
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Loewe said:
The handguard lip is often overlooked, but if fine that is good, - straight bolt could be G24t or G98, either is not bad, but neither probably as valuable as 98k. It really could be anything, Polish (which is good) to any number of less desirable variations from Europe.

I would try to keep an offer under $300, as you have a lot of parts to buy to make this presentable, the stock would be very hard to find, you probably would have to settle on a later year, - generally I do not recommend restorations, as they can be money pits and most often disappointments, but this one is tempting.
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Loewe,

Thanks for your input.
 
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