Remake of Classic All Quiet on The Western Front
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The fact that they aren't using Turk 98/38s like the 80s version is a good start...
I'm looking forward to it.
krukster86
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I recall reading the book in Middle School, followed by a watch of the 1930 movie (excellent btw), and I just recently watched the 1970's version with Ernest Borgnine. I am excited for this one being a German production.
The Borgnine version was good, other than the aforementioned Turk mausers!
mauser1908
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It was, Universal purchased several hundred original surplus uniforms. Loads of German WWI veterans living in LA were used as extras and technical experts. Far better than the second one. The eyeglasses are SPOT ON in that trailer, love the detail.
CM0087
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This actually looks really good. However, as it is Netflix produced i look forward to a plot filled with multiple gays and their relationships, the presence of a strong, anti-patriarchal woman, a transvestite or 2 and a whole lot of minorities in German and French uniform. I'm surprised the main character isn't one, actually.
Seriously, though. Looking forward to watching it. Could we finally have the "great" modern WW1 movie we have been waiting on for decades?
Seriously, though. Looking forward to watching it. Could we finally have the "great" modern WW1 movie we have been waiting on for decades?
Guillaume d'Orange
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I guess they were inspired by the success of « 1917 » and thought that WWI can sell.
It will probably be packed with action scenes « a la Fury », whereas soldiers mostly do other things than fight in a war.
As the book was considered unpatriotic and banned during the 3rd Reich and it was massively taught in East Germany, it may have been very alluring to Netflix.
I look forward to watching the full movie, the trailer looks like WWI on steroids.
It will probably be packed with action scenes « a la Fury », whereas soldiers mostly do other things than fight in a war.
As the book was considered unpatriotic and banned during the 3rd Reich and it was massively taught in East Germany, it may have been very alluring to Netflix.
I look forward to watching the full movie, the trailer looks like WWI on steroids.
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Guillaume d'Orange
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You already have it. This is « Capitaine Conan ».
Captain Conan - Wikipedia
Another very good one and hard to get is :
Les Fragments d'Antonin — Wikipédia
It may have something to do with the fact that more and more people, at least on this side of the pond, are more willing to view WW1 as a tragedy instead of a battle of good vs evil. (Outside of those who still think Imperial Germans were also Nazis.) As such, films that are sympathetic to or at least willing to humanize the German side will be better able to find mass market appeal.
1917 was, at least in my opinion, a well done and innovative movie without unnecessary post modern garbage. Hence its success. I fear you are correct. Let's see how fast woke directors manage to put out garbage that no one other than critics want to watch and turn everyone off of the genre just as it was getting started.
The trailer looks good, but I hope they cling tightly to the message of the book and show the war as a disgusting tragedy that slowly but surely stripped Paul of his youth, his friends, his humanity, and eventually his life.
I'm concerned that they might try and make it more of an action movie to appeal to a wider audience. Hopefully I am wrong.
Now if we wanted an action packed World War I movie, they could do one based on Ernst Jünger's Storm of Steel.
I'm concerned that they might try and make it more of an action movie to appeal to a wider audience. Hopefully I am wrong.
Now if we wanted an action packed World War I movie, they could do one based on Ernst Jünger's Storm of Steel.
k98dave
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Being a German film I don't believe it will have any of the Netflix required "woke " nonsense. Another German series film Generation War" on Netflix was well done also. I'm guessing neither of these were produced with any Netflix control of funding
Director Edward Berger shared his excitement of working on this film in an interview:
Director Edward Berger shared his excitement of working on this film in an interview:
Guillaume d'Orange
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Actually I’m a great reader of Jünger’s works. I’ve read his war diaries, which were published after he died, and on which Storm of Steel is based. He cut all the downtime so much so that you get the impression that he has fought for 4 years non-stop.
Before Hollywood and Netflix, he knew what would appeal to the people, but this is an edited version of what he experienced.
In his diaries, he expresses feelings, he has a love affair with a French girl, he gets drunk quite often and he tries to get in the nascent air force (to flee the random bloodshed). Not exactly the inhumane superhero of Storm of Steel.
abrakadabra
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70's remake is quiet good (also has a great performance by Ian Holm):
Warrior1354
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I hope it's a good movie but I'll say this if I see a German soldier or a French soldier with blue and pink hair I'm turning it off.
DaveDavis
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War is a cancer that forever eats at you. You never wash away the stench and the memories stay burned into your soul. You see terrible things that you never imagined possible. You do things no sane man would ever do. And even 50 plus years after wards you can not erase the nightmares.
I agree entirely with Dave, war is a cancer on mankind and nothing good comes from it, - the end result of these wars should be the execution of those that caused them, - World War I was one of the greatest crimes in history, the most guilty were French, Russian and Eastern European politicians (Serbia in particular); what "guilt" Germany and Austria owned were due to misplace pride and naivety, - the Kaiser and German leaders should have been "culled" after the war, but so too should have the French and English criminals that were more responsible for the war. Woodrow Wilson should have decorated a lamppost, a true pig of monumental proportions, - possibly the worst President until the modern era...
Not to say that some good came didn't come from the war, the Hapsburg Empire was oppressive and long past its time, - often credited with tolerance for minorities, especially Jews but this is far to generous, the Hungarian's anything but tolerant of Jews or Rumanians, - the Germans of WWI were arrogant to minorities of Eastern Europe but as tolerant as any nation when it cam to Jews (those that attributed antisemitism to German character are full of shite, nazism has little to do with German character.. it is a sadistic "socialistic" ideology that has few similarities to "conservatism")
Anyway, war guilt and atrocities (and every war has them in plentiful supply) should be attributed to individuals (not nations or populations who are more often more victims themselves... who in America today, what remains of it, thinks the central government and their decisions or actions are reflective of their desires or interest? This was as true in 1939 Germany as 2022 America, - I strongly disagree with everything this "country" does or stands for today...), - WWI hanging of the Kaiser and his associated guilt ridden conspirators would have been appropriate as would the similar treatment of Russian (possibly the guiltiest of all in their corruption and causation of the war) and French politicians (hardly less revolting than the guilt of the Russians and Serbians).
I hope the movie is well done, but doubt it if recent experience is a clue, - especially Netflix (which gave millions to Scumbag Obama for nothing). better to read Remarque book in the original as he had a true appreciation of the value of war, it's meaningless, its legacy of harm to individual families, (mothers, fathers, sons, daughters and wives) for little more than obscure abstractions... how many Marines that fought and died on Guadalcanal or Okinawa ever heard of these shitholes in 1941, or cared, - sons of miners and farmers who get shite on by their governments should not have to be sacrificed for the ambitions of billionaire industrialist or political opportunists...
Not to say that some good came didn't come from the war, the Hapsburg Empire was oppressive and long past its time, - often credited with tolerance for minorities, especially Jews but this is far to generous, the Hungarian's anything but tolerant of Jews or Rumanians, - the Germans of WWI were arrogant to minorities of Eastern Europe but as tolerant as any nation when it cam to Jews (those that attributed antisemitism to German character are full of shite, nazism has little to do with German character.. it is a sadistic "socialistic" ideology that has few similarities to "conservatism")
Anyway, war guilt and atrocities (and every war has them in plentiful supply) should be attributed to individuals (not nations or populations who are more often more victims themselves... who in America today, what remains of it, thinks the central government and their decisions or actions are reflective of their desires or interest? This was as true in 1939 Germany as 2022 America, - I strongly disagree with everything this "country" does or stands for today...), - WWI hanging of the Kaiser and his associated guilt ridden conspirators would have been appropriate as would the similar treatment of Russian (possibly the guiltiest of all in their corruption and causation of the war) and French politicians (hardly less revolting than the guilt of the Russians and Serbians).
I hope the movie is well done, but doubt it if recent experience is a clue, - especially Netflix (which gave millions to Scumbag Obama for nothing). better to read Remarque book in the original as he had a true appreciation of the value of war, it's meaningless, its legacy of harm to individual families, (mothers, fathers, sons, daughters and wives) for little more than obscure abstractions... how many Marines that fought and died on Guadalcanal or Okinawa ever heard of these shitholes in 1941, or cared, - sons of miners and farmers who get shite on by their governments should not have to be sacrificed for the ambitions of billionaire industrialist or political opportunists...
