Warrior1354
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I picked up this photograph that came in from Germany. Really like the date on this one too, 1923.
Reichsmarine photograph
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Warrior1354
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Alright here you go. Because Army photographs from that era are so much cooler then Navy lol! And remember Paul. You, and Mike. Are the one's that created the collector. Who's primarily collecting focus in the Imperial era. Are weapons of Kaiserliche. I wonder who that might be!
MikeF has done more for this theme (field & hobby) than anyone except CB, MauserBill & MarkW, all great influencing pioneers (great collectors that have furthered Imperial studies most - though not to slight Joe Steen & Ken Huddle).
Another nice picture, - period PC and pictures offer a great deal and deserve a place in any good collection. I have owned a great many fine historical relevant (rifle wise) but primarily WWI era, the Republican era are tougher for sure, you have a nice collection and though I do not often comment it is due to limited time and often power and not appreciation of your contribution!
Another nice picture, - period PC and pictures offer a great deal and deserve a place in any good collection. I have owned a great many fine historical relevant (rifle wise) but primarily WWI era, the Republican era are tougher for sure, you have a nice collection and though I do not often comment it is due to limited time and often power and not appreciation of your contribution!
Hi Warrior, with regards to that great Marine photo, the sailor 2nd from left with the pipe was my dad's cousin's uncle (not related). His name was Carl Holl. I met him once in 1981.
After his time in the Reichsmarine, he was taken into the Kriegsmarine and ultimately into the U-boat service being one of the few to survive the war. Unfortunately when I met him, not realizing what an opportunity I had in front of me I was too stupid to ask more questions.
All I recall him saying was that they were off the east coast , brought the Sub up to periscope depth and let the crew take a look at New York.
I'm having difficulty posting my pics. I'll try again later.
Best regards
Andy
After his time in the Reichsmarine, he was taken into the Kriegsmarine and ultimately into the U-boat service being one of the few to survive the war. Unfortunately when I met him, not realizing what an opportunity I had in front of me I was too stupid to ask more questions.
All I recall him saying was that they were off the east coast , brought the Sub up to periscope depth and let the crew take a look at New York.
I'm having difficulty posting my pics. I'll try again later.
Best regards
Andy
Stephan98k
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Jordan’s compliment was deserved. I learned a lot from you and your posts in the forum, you motivated me to record the trends. That was one of the main reasons I was able to help with the work on the book.
It's great that you mentioned the others, unfortunately I never met them. Is Joe Steen still with us? I would like to ask him some questions, I have just now read some of his contributions in the Volume III book. Now I have been researching a topic, Gustloff-Werke and Buchenwald, for several years and discovered that Joe Steen also worked on it. He was on the right track and did a really great job.
The same applies to 2023.
Warrior1354
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Andy this is wonderful information. I look forward to seeing those photographs when you get them uploaded. Thank you for sharing this information.
Stephan, We all learn from one another, my start began with MauserBill, Peter Kuck, CB and John Wall, but also influenced by Mark Weiringa, Jon Speed (thanks to BruceK) Ken Huddle and Joe Steen (and his dear friend BobT).
Perhaps the greatest leap was the introduction of our German (Bavarian) and Austrian friends that this forum furthered so successively, Wolfgang, yourself and BerndN played a great roll in our current understanding (whose aid was essential for my small contribution to the books Bruce and Mike created & put together - really Jon Speed, Wolfgang and Bernd provided so much aid in the main articles and research I feel like a plagiarist reading some of the articles I wrote for the MRJ... your translations are remarkable!)
What is more appropriate (typical of German character) than our German collectors friends play such a pivotal role in research and are so reserved and willing to remain silent about it all. Although very un-Germanic I am a great Germanophile...
*** Joe Steen passed away 2014 or so, BobT carries on his legacy and watches this forum regularly
If you have a question in mind for Joe Steen, you either send it to me and I will pass it on to BobT who was his closest friend and researcher he worked with, we often exchange emails and he reads this forum regularly (but refuses to join, I suspect he wants to avoid all the childishness so common on forums... like Jon Speed and so many advanced old-timer collectors do...)
Its been a few weeks since I heard from Bob, like with this forum I have been neglectful of replying to emails because of heath issues, not mine as I am too ornery & unpleasant to get ill, but someone far more important. Anyway, most of our emails are in relation to this forum activity and posts.
Its been a few weeks since I heard from Bob, like with this forum I have been neglectful of replying to emails because of heath issues, not mine as I am too ornery & unpleasant to get ill, but someone far more important. Anyway, most of our emails are in relation to this forum activity and posts.
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Paul, you are right and we all learn from one another. Personally, I learned a lot from Jon, I am very grateful to him and also to Wolfgang.
I think I know what you mean, that it somehow feels like plagiarism. I feel the same way, especially when I write something in the forum and have a different opinion than someone I learned the basics from a few years ago.
Rest in peace Mr Steen.
It's a shame that I'm almost 10 years late, I would have liked to have told him in person how great his work was. Unfortunately I don't have the KCN from 1995 and 1997, but I have read his excerpts about Gustloff-Werke and Buchenwald in the Volume III Kriegsmodell book. If you have the time, please wish his friend Bob T. all the best and a Merry Christmas from me. You can tell him, I will try to hurry up with my work, we can now substantiate some of his friends theories with documents and other findings.
All the best to you and also to your loved ones Paul.
I welcome the comments a great deal, and agree wholeheartedly!
Bob is every bit as significant as Joe, though it would disrespectful and a bit crass for Bob to be honest in this regard, I often think they are one in the same! I will ask him about emailing you but he is so reserved I doubt he will take up the suggestion, but for a researcher of your quality he might. Though be forewarned, like most exceptional minds, they typically ask more questions than they directly answer... I suspect to get you to answer your own questions!
Bob is every bit as significant as Joe, though it would disrespectful and a bit crass for Bob to be honest in this regard, I often think they are one in the same! I will ask him about emailing you but he is so reserved I doubt he will take up the suggestion, but for a researcher of your quality he might. Though be forewarned, like most exceptional minds, they typically ask more questions than they directly answer... I suspect to get you to answer your own questions!
Lol. They do show up. I've got a few with navy markings.
talking about Reichsmarine helmets ...
Please note all the M18 ear cut out helmets with the crossed unclear anchor as decal.
2. Kompanie Küstenwehr-Abteilung III. => costal artillery
on their way to the training grounds in Saxony.
Next photo shows a soldier from an unknown Navy unit.
Please note that he still has imperial (crown) buttons on his M1919 tunic and wears early (single compartment) Navy ammo pouches.
Please note all the M18 ear cut out helmets with the crossed unclear anchor as decal.
2. Kompanie Küstenwehr-Abteilung III. => costal artillery
on their way to the training grounds in Saxony.
Next photo shows a soldier from an unknown Navy unit.
Please note that he still has imperial (crown) buttons on his M1919 tunic and wears early (single compartment) Navy ammo pouches.
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Fantastic pics Wolfgang!
The first photo shows the arrival of the unit on June 2nd, 1926 at the Königsbrück military training grounds (Saxony).
I have no idea why the navy preferred a military training area in Saxony. Presumably the beer tasted better there, than on the coast.
The portrait was most probably taken between 1921 and 1924.
From 1921, the navy was allowed to wear the decal with the crossed anchors. From January 1924 they had to have it on their helmets. The anchor buttons were also introduced with the same order. No more crown buttons.
For the beer they would have selected Bavaria! However this a fascinating photograph, RM photos are rare enough, of this quality near unique and dates to Seeckt's "retirement" and to all the consequences that led to Hitler. 1926-1931 is perhaps the most interesting period of the Republican era for me.
it is a little mind boggling this being Saxony! What the hell for??
it is a little mind boggling this being Saxony! What the hell for??