RCO44 post war repaint RG34

[SVW1945]

Thought I would post this Post War gray repaint RCO 44 Rg34 Kit. Chain is all so post war. Can see by the links the wat they are twisted . Oiler might be WW2 not sure, Maker seems WW2 that I have seen on WW2 ones looking like this one. Same with spoon. The pin on spoon is a little bit longer than most ones you see. Thoughts are welcome on this one.

 

[Scharf]

Hi,

To me the oiler is indeed war time era.

 

[Scharf]

Hi!

Missed this one last week, 30 bucks... a post war used rco45

 

[SVW1945]

Hi!

Missed this one last week, 30 bucks... a post war used rco45

Nice fine. They must have repurposed these after the war.

 

[pwcosol]

I know whom got this one. After seeing this, subsequently heard that post-WW2 paint does not adhere well to the wartime paint used. It can also be removed without adverse effects on the original, underlying paint. So, would like to hear thoughts as to attempting to restore this to original condition or leaving it as is...

Amended 4/6: Turns out the kit above is NOT one in the same, so don't know whom got it...

 

[SVW1945]

I know whom got this one. After seeing this, subsequently heard that post-WW2 paint does not adhere well to the wartime paint used. It can also be removed without adverse effects on the original, underlying paint. So, would like to hear thoughts as to attempting to restore this to original condition or leaving it as is...

Sure would. Let her fly.

 

[pwcosol]

After looking at the kit "scharf" posted again, I suspect it is not a W. German BGS/BW Post-WW2 reissue, but rather E. German. The oiler appears to be one of the alloy types with splined bottom cap. The HKW is a late pattern with dark blue-black finish. Both these components have been observed in some of the resin/fabric composite E. German tins. In those, the RGKs are typically composed of "figure-8" twisted wire or white nylon (have also seen one with cordage, similar to those used for Yugoslav M98/SKS rifles). It could also be any left-over, WW2 manufactured/refurbed RGK as well. Such kits are not common a like the W. German ones and IMHO, collectable in it's own right...

 

[Slash]

Oiler might be WW2 not sure, Maker seems WW2 that I have seen on WW2 ones looking like this one. Same with spoon. The pin on spoon is a little bit longer than most ones you see.

Tool is post-war. Oil bottle is period (pre-May 1945). My thoughts only .....

 

[Slash]

..... subsequently heard that post-WW2 paint does not adhere well to the wartime paint used. It can also be removed without adverse effects on the original, underlying paint. So, would like to hear thoughts as to attempting to restore this to original condition or leaving it as is...

Can only go by my own experiences but several years ago I tried to remove post-war paint from three or four ordnance tan cans. It was in no way easy to remove, in fact I had no luck restoring the can to its original state. The post-war paint on my examples was very well adhered. AND in my efforts the original tan underlying paint WAS very much adversely impacted. In retrospect, I wish that I would have just left them alone. Perhaps I was using the wrong techniques or materials. Regardless, live and learn ....

 

[pwcosol]

Tool is post-war. Oil bottle is period (pre-May 1945). My thoughts only .....

Slasher:
Regarding the oiler in question, it is a bit difficult to ascertain if it is the same pattern as pictured in posts #1, 2 & 32 in this thread:
https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/the-post-ww2-rg34.42772/
However, if so, would appreciate hearing your thoughts as to why you believe it is of "pre-May 1945" manufacturer. I am at a disadvantage not having a example to physically examine. If the material used is in fact aluminum alloy, seems there were more pressing needs for this rather than be utilized for a oiler. In addition, I cannot recall ever seeing one of these oilers in any original, late, WW2 manufactured Rg34 (and I am not the only one). Have seen photos, auctions, etc. on a few occasions where this oiler was present in a mixed-component, earlier kit and likely Post-WW2 issued. I have also noted the oilers seem more prevalent in Europe than in the USA. Lastly, there is a slight resemblance to some modified Portuguese Rg34 oilers, but splines on the lower cap are much more pronounced and cruder on them.

 

[Slash]

Slasher:
Regarding the oiler in question, it is a bit difficult to ascertain if it is the same pattern as pictured in posts #1, 2 & 32 in this thread:
https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/the-post-ww2-rg34.42772/
However, if so, would appreciate hearing your thoughts as to why you believe it is of "pre-May 1945" manufacturer. I am at a disadvantage not having a example to physically examine. If the material used is in fact aluminum alloy, seems there were more pressing needs for this rather than be utilized for a oiler. In addition, I cannot recall ever seeing one of these oilers in any original, late, WW2 manufactured Rg34 (and I am not the only one). Have seen photos, auctions, etc. on a few occasions where this oiler was present in a mixed-component, earlier kit and likely Post-WW2 issued. I have also noted the oilers seem more prevalent in Europe than in the USA. Lastly, there is a slight resemblance to some modified Portuguese Rg34 oilers, but splines on the lower cap are much more pronounced and cruder on them.

Good comments pwcosol. My reply and comments were to SVW1945's original post, #1. The phenolic oil bottle with maker's code ept and MPD is pre-May 1945 manufactured. The tool is post-war.

The aluminum oil bottle in Scharf's post #3 is post-war, East German (DDR). The same type of oil bottle in the photos you designated above in the hot linked Post-War rg34 thread. Attached image courtesy of Wolfgang (Amberg). Note also the stamped HKW and "dog chain" style reinigungskette.

 

[pwcosol]

Thanks for the clarification Slash. We were on two different tracks, which explains everything...