Rarely seen markings on bayonets s84/98

[HansHans]

Has anyone seen such unusual markings on the fireguard and scabbard?

 

[AndyB]

Replacement spare flashguard, Spandau 4 proofed. The B on scabbard could be refurbishment stamp.

 

[HansHans]

Thanks for your reply. What about grip plates without markings?

 

[AndyB]

When period could be too replacements. normally there should be prior 1940/41 assembly numbers and proofs, but post this date i would assume even non marked ones could be real.

 

[HansHans]

Thanks

 

[AndyB]

It looks like Alu rivet instead of screw in scabbard mouth, which could be a GDR refurbishment.

 

[HansHans]

That's right. You have a good eye.

 

[CanadianAR]

I have the same marking. On a depot rebuilt bayonet using armourers spare parts.

Spandau Depot built bayonet

I had asked Slash about the chances of finding a Depot built and marked bayonet awhile back. He advised me it would be tough, Took me a few years, and to be honest back then I would not have likely known enough. But I saw this one and snagged it, It is a S/178/g scabbard that is well worn with...

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[CanadianAR]

Could you post images of your blades maker code, all the other waffenamts and serial numbers?
Latch and button marked?

 

[HansHans]

Could you post images of your blades maker code, all the other waffenamts and serial numbers?
Latch and button marked?

Sorry, I don't have a bayonet. I bought these items as spare parts.

 

[ANDYH]

Nice lot of spare parts!

 

[Slash]

What about grip plates without markings?

Period original phenolic grip scales should have circular mold markings from the manufacturing process as well as the makers' logo, code, and/or the MPD designation. Mold number markings are usually observed as well. Depending upon the year of assembly many will also be stamped with a WaA and/or an assembly number. My thoughts only .....

 

[HansHans]

Period original phenolic grip scales should have circular mold markings from the manufacturing process as well as the makers' logo, code, and/or the MPD designation. Mold number markings are usually observed as well. Depending upon the year of assembly many will also be stamped with a WaA and/or an assembly number. My thoughts only .....

They look original, which makes it even more strange.

 

[Slash]

They look original, which makes it even more strange.

They do not appear to be original to me.

 

[Slash]

i would assume even non marked ones could be real.

Even the latest red phenolic grip scales with embedded wood chip and fiber material are maker marked with a stylized G (unknown producer) and circular mold markings with numbers.

 

[HansHans]

They do not appear to be original to me.

I will post more pictures of them tomorrow.

 

[AndyB]

Personally i couldnt confirm the originality here, but the condition of brown color and design looks ok to me. But not holding in hand. Possible that they should be have molding circle marking. Possible even GDR could made postwar this part.

 

[HansHans]

A little quiz Which of them have marking?

 

[Slash]

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[HansHans]

Unfortunately, it's the other way around.