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Patton

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This rifle was supposedly brought back from Germany by a friend's uncle that said he got it from an armory in Berlin. Apparently, the rifles were being disabled by sawing off the stocks. I have done a little research on it but would like to get some information from the people that are experts on the history and value of these rifles. There is some surface rust on it and as mentioned the stock has been sawed off however it appears to be original and all the numbers match. The action is clean and cycles quite smoothly and the trigger is crisp and responsive. Is it elegant junk or of possible value to a collector that could restore it? Thanks in advance for your feedback.

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Hard to tell by the photographs. Opening them up they're pretty small. But, I can tell you this is not a k98k. Instead it's a much scarcer rifle the G.29o.
 
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Steyr produced luftwaffe contracted g.12/34 sometimes called a G.29ö. Not a common rifle. The stock is saveable, but to find the correct chunk of wood to repair it with will be real difficult. Definitely collectible as is.

Edit: just noticed this one is dated 1938. Which I beleive is the hardest one to find. Very cool.
 
Warrior1354 said:
Hard to tell by the photographs. Opening them up they're pretty small. But, I can tell you this is not a k98k. Instead it's a much scarcer rifle the G.29o.
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Thanks for the response. I admittedly had some difficulty uploading the photos.
 
mauser99 said:
wow.. such a shame it was destroyed. If you had the butt stock there are guys who could repair it if it was a clean break. 1938 29o's are quite rare.
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Yes, I thought the same thing. The butt appears to have been hand sawed and broken off before it was cut all the way through causing a piece to be torn off up to the trigger guard. Probably was in a hurry :).
 
Absolut said:
You chose about the most complicated way to upload pictures .. I copied those from the PDF and saved them as normal JPEG, turned them and reattached those to this message.
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Thanks a lot for the help. Much appreciated. I had some trouble with the photos and was running out of time with the post.
 
bnz41john said:
Steyr produced luftwaffe contracted g.12/34 sometimes called a G.29ö. Not a common rifle. The stock is saveable, but to find the correct chunk of wood to repair it with will be real difficult. Definitely collectible as is.

Edit: just noticed this one is dated 1938. Which I beleive is the hardest one to find. Very cool.
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Thanks so much for the response and the great information. I suspected this rifle was unique and collectible just from browsing your site and others. I would still like to get even a "ball park" estimate of the value if you are able or so inclined. Thanks again for the info...
 
It would be hard to say. I would guess a very very very rough estimate of more then a grand, less then 2 grand? I've been in the mauser game since 2009 and I've never physically even seen one.

very cool rifle.
 
Thanks. I imagine it would be difficult to put a value on something like this. I suppose it would depend on the buyer and the need. I am trying to put together an insurance estimate for my WW2 collection and never really knew anything much about this rifle. It basically sat in the corner next to my MP40 for years.
 
Tough break for a hard Toni d rifle. If you ever decide to part it out, I could use that front sling swivel. My rifle is missing one.
 
@Patton maybe of interest to you, three links to threads where G29ö rifles are shown, so you get an idea of how your rifle would look like with an intact stock:
1. 1938 rifle: https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/g29o-1938.1184/
2. 1939 rifle: https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/g-29o-660-1939.220/
3. comparison with K98k rifle: https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/g-29o-compared-to-k98k.837/

If you find the time, please do upload some more pictures of your rifle. I'd especially love to see what you call a cut. From the pictures it isn't visible whether it is a cut or a broken off stock. If it was sawn off, did you ever consider that in fact they may cut it off back then to mail it home? Meaning maybe wherever you got it from the buttstock could still be somewhere around.
 
Thanks for the links, I will definitely check them out. I'll try again on the photo upload but very busy lately as both parents are in hospice.

The stock was sawed off by hand most of the way and then broken off at the end. This is pretty obvious when you examine it closely. Yes I did consider that the G.I. that owned the rifle might have sawed it off as many did in order to transport weapons back to the U.S. but the story was told to me by the G.I. that brought it back as related in my first post. It is possible he bent the truth in order to not reveal himself as the one that sawed up the weapon but the real truth doesn't really matter much and the original G.I. is long since passed away. Looking back I wish I had requested a COA but at the time I didn't want to "look a gift horse in the mouth" since he gave it to me because of my interest in WW2 history. I never knew until the other day that the rifle was a rare piece because as a boy I had seen them for sale for a few bucks in Army Surplus stores which I frequented quite often. You could even find them along with P38's at K-Mart :)
 
Jakeman664 said:
Is the serial number "34" no letter block either? If so that would be the 34th G29(o) ever made
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The number "34" is stamped on just about every part of this rifle. It seems unlikely that would be the serial number but I leave that determination to the experts.
 
Patton said:
The number "34" is stamped on just about every part of this rifle. It seems unlikely that would be the serial number but I leave that determination to the experts.
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No that is the serial number. If the serial number on the left side of the receiver (where it says 660) is also just 34, you have the 34th G29(o) ever made
 
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