New guy K98 R.C.?

[fendermain]

Hi. I'm new to K98s and this forum. I recently purchased this 1939 147 and it shows some characteristics of a R.C. Most of the metal is black and has the same look as my mosin refurbs. It has a replacement stock with the serial number on the left side and has that reddish hew of Russian shellac. The bolt does not match. However both barrel bands match and have eagle/37, the rear sight matches, the bottom plate matches and one set of screws match. There is no X, electro pencil or altered birds. This firearm has been to England and has crown BNP on the barrel, receiver and bolt end. Is this a Russian capture that traveled to England? Thanks.

 

[Hi_c]

I'm new too and won't be able to help, but I can tell you this: you'll get more answers with a few pics.


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[fendermain]

I have photos and apparently was not successful with the upload. 1st post-I should have tried this in the test section.

 

[fendermain]

Let's try again

 

[Stan]

I've never seen an RC with that many matching numbers. Maybe a bolt mismatched rifle that had a replacement, cupped buttplate stock numbered to match in the same fashion as an RC? It does have the overall look and finish of an RC. Perhaps others here may have more info for you.

 

[heavy_mech]

I've never seen an RC with that many matching numbers...

Agreed. No way it's an RC with the bands and bottom metal still matched. The barrel stamping 7.9m/m and BNP under crown looks British. They used the tons per after 1954. Exactly "who" did it escapes me, but you have a good shot at getting a more exact answer here.

 

[xwarp]

Only thing I can offer is that Googling "Birmingham Nitro proof" offered some results that may answer your questions.

18 tons per square inch if I read that right on the pressure.

 

[deadeye18]

Yep Birmingham proof marks.My G98 has the same proofs and I also have a byf 43 with the same stamps plus that stock is also serial numbered like an RC.They were brought into England in the early 1970s by a company called magnum arms Ltd and sold either live firing in original calibre or as a smoothbored .410 shotgun I think they also sold em de acted.

 

[deadeye18]

Here's the markings on mine which is a complete mismatch

 

[fendermain]

Deadeye-Thanks for the information. Were they known to reblue in the Russian fashion? The reblue on this one is quite old. I find the conversion of a rifle to a .410 shotgun quite interesting. When I got this one the action and barrel were full of grease and I was pleased to find the bore quite nice. I checked the headspace and it is good to go with some low velocity cast rounds.

 

[deadeye18]

Glad you got a nice one fendermain.Yeah they were done in .410 so that they were easier to own because a licence for a shotgun is really easy to get here whereas a section 1 firearm certificate that allows you to own everything else is really tough to get.As far as I know the only work that was done to them was some were smoothbored and they were all cleaned and that's it.I'm guessing the re blue is possibly from a previous owner.I have the old magnum arms sales catalogue stored in my shed ill dig it out and if there's anymore info on these ill post it up.I wonder how your rifle got to the U.S. ?

 

[deadeye18]

Here's the finish on mine.

 

[fendermain]

The shop where I got it said it was from the sale of a large private collection that came from Europe.