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Need help ce44 with unusual serial number and C stock

DiehardWWII

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Hello,
Need some quick help. A friend bought his first 98k online, has to decide if it's correct during 3 day inspection, so I'll post some photos of his purchase.

Overview.
CE44 - n block.
Serialed on barrel, not on receiver.
Bands serialized.
Barrel channel and handguard no serial.
No eagle h on stock
Stock is C stock with f lug and 1 on bayonet lug, typical of late bcd, but i know both sauer and bcd used Astrawerk.
Could this rifle be correct with this unnumbered stock?
Odd serial number has me thinking its something different but can't find an eagle n or anything.

Appreciate everyone's help with this one, I'm more a late bcd guy and he needs to know if he did well or not.
Thanks,
Diehard
 

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Looks like a pretty nice rifle this is getting quite late in JP Sauer production around this time they were using a lot of subcontracted parts. Such as Astrawerke and Feima receivers, rear sight components from Walther, and stocks supplied by Mauser.

More pictures would be helpful.
 
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Stock should be serialed and e/H, but Menzel stocks in this range are common.



Hello,
Need some quick help. A friend bought his first 98k online, has to decide if it's correct during 3 day inspection, so I'll post some photos of his purchase.

Overview.
CE44 - n block.
Serialed on barrel, not on receiver.
Bands serialized.
Barrel channel and handguard no serial.
No eagle h on stock
Stock is C stock with f lug and 1 on bayonet lug, typical of late bcd, but i know both sauer and bcd used Astrawerk.
Could this rifle be correct with this unnumbered stock?
Odd serial number has me thinking its something different but can't find an eagle n or anything.

Appreciate everyone's help with this one, I'm more a late bcd guy and he needs to know if he did well or not.
Thanks,
Diehard
 
Appreciate the answers so far, feels similar to my original thoughts that the stock type is not clearly wrong in any way but I debate if it came with the rifle or was borrowed post war from a late bcd 45 (no stock proof either) to restore a sanded stock rifle. Finding other unserialed without the h in this letter range would be helpful. I like that both bands look good being as restored sporters are usually missing the bands. Also if it was a restoration, it's about the only unnumbered stock that could appear correct meaning the restorer was very well versed or indeed its the correct stock.

To simply the question, if you paid retail for the rifle, would you keep it or use the 3 day inspection to return as fake?

Need answers for him with some persuading facts one way or another. I hope there is another ce44 out there equipped the same for instance.
Thanks,
Diehard
 
As mentioned Sauer was numbering to the end, I’ve never heard of one with an unumbered stock. There are a couple more possibilities for unumbered Menzel stocks to show up as well, so while it is a tough stock, it’s not impossible to locate. Honestly with the amount of collector “correcting” in the last decades, it has really muddied the water for those looking for an honest rifle, especially from common sales outlets, a wood work find is a whole different thing. It all comes down to price really and what he wants out of the rifle, if he was looking for a 100% correct rifle, this is not it, but at the same time it’s still not a bad rifle and the stock is rather valuable on its own, so all things to consider. One other thought, is that on multiple occasions we have seen instances where a vet brought back multiple rifles and parts are accidentally swapped after the war, this could be such a case but you will likely never know of course.
 

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