Need clarification help

[mwelter121]

I'm new to the forum and Mausers. If anyone could clear up a confusion I have. I've recently picked up (what I think) is a k98. It's a duffle cut. As i understand, this means the stock was cut, presumably by an allied serviceman, so he could bring it home in his duffle bag. (I've read on this site how to properly repair this cut so the rifle can shoot safely. I plan to give it a try).

Anyway, the rifle stamped byf 43, and has a few of the expected Nazi markings on it. But on the side of the receiver it's stamped "mod 98". I've read on a different website that this means the rifle is really an "m98". The site said the gun went through a yugo rebuild/refurbish after the war to remove certain Nazi markings. This rifle was then brought to market.

The problem is, if it went through a yugo rebuild/refurbish why the duffle cut, and why am i still seeing few swastikas on eagle wings on the barrel/receiver? Can anyone clarify what "mod 98" means?

Thanks

 

[dkay62]

I would guess if it was a Yugo (or Russian) rebuild it would have import marks on it. More likely it is a vet bring back with that duffle cut stock. All byf 43 production would have been the K98 model. The Karabiner 98 Kurz (often abbreviated Kar98k, K98, or K98k) is a bolt action rifle chambered for the 7.92×57mm Mauser cartridge that was adopted on 21 June 1935 as the standard service rifle by the German Wehrmacht. The left side of the receiver (although a K98) will say "Mod 98".

 

[MacBranche]

Good pictures would be usefull to assess the said rifle. Generally speaking id this is a refurb rifle, you should see something with serial numbers/ markings / change in the finish surface. It is hard to say why the rifle has been duffle cut!? Maybe a refurb action was put in a vet bringback stock?

 

[dkay62]

Good pictures would be usefull to assess the said rifle. Generally speaking id this is a refurb rifle, you should see something with serial numbers/ markings / change in the finish surface. It is hard to say why the rifle has been duffle cut!? Maybe a refurb action was put in a vet bringback stock?

Yes, we love pictures!

 

[my66coupe]

I'm new to the forum and Mausers. If anyone could clear up a confusion I have. I've recently picked up (what I think) is a k98. It's a duffle cut. As i understand, this means the stock was cut, presumably by an allied serviceman, so he could bring it home in his duffle bag. (I've read on this site how to properly repair this cut so the rifle can shoot safely. I plan to give it a try).

Anyway, the rifle stamped byf 43, and has a few of the expected Nazi markings on it. But on the side of the receiver it's stamped "mod 98". I've read on a different website that this means the rifle is really an "m98". The site said the gun went through a yugo rebuild/refurbish after the war to remove certain Nazi markings. This rifle was then brought to market.

The problem is, if it went through a yugo rebuild/refurbish why the duffle cut, and why am i still seeing few swastikas on eagle wings on the barrel/receiver? Can anyone clarify what "mod 98" means?

Thanks

You should browse the picture reference section of this forum. There you can look through all manufacturers of K98s from pre war +++You'll soon realize that most k98s were marked Mod. 98 on the left side of the receiver. Furthermore, if you look at multiple examples of BYF43s you'll also see the Mod. 98 marking on the left side of the receiver. Whoever told you that the stamping designates m98 yugo refurb, is wrong.

 

[mwelter121]

Follow up

Thanks for the help on this guys. I'm leaning towards not a refurbish. I've attempted to post photos below. If it works, I hope they show enough info for comment.







I have a few follow up questions if anyone is up for them. The last photo shows the duffle cut nicely hidden by the lower band. As you can see the band spring is missing. I've found a source on line for both stamped and milled choices. Any thoughts on which I'd prefer? I didn't pay a lot for the rifle, so I'm really after the historic value of the gun rather than the numeric value.

Also, the springs I'm seeing offer both 3 5/8" and 4" length choices. I measured and found 3 7/8" would be an ideal fit. I realize the cut would have taken about 1/8" off the wood, but if I open the gap for the 4" spring, the front band extends a bit past the downsizing bevel on the barrel. Would this still be the proper fit?

Thanks again for your help.

 

[mauser99]

Looks like a pretty complete orig. configuration Byf43 missing a band spring.

That's about all your gonna get with those three photos.

 

[reich1900]

Buy both springs and see which one fits best without messing up the gun. Leave the rest of the gun as is from what you have shown.