Late War Sauer Commercial

[Guntoter]

While I have nothing to add regarding the referenced K98, in the book The P38 Pistol Spreewerk Production by Jan Balcar and Ron Clarin, they have documented the "u" stamp being used on Spreewerk (cyq code) production in the Zero series with the "u" replacing the waffenamt markings. Most likely this was in the 1945 time range, but that is not for certain. Is it possible the "u" marks on these K98's has a similar function?

In addition, in the new expanded second edition of FN Browning Pistols, Side-arms that Shaped World History by Anthony Vanderlinden he states that the "MI" marking was not unique to FN. I would add, however, that if the part so marked is accompanied by the Waffenamt 140 or Eagle 140 then it would be FN production.

 

[jbmauser]

In addition, in the new expanded second edition of FN Browning Pistols, Side-arms that Shaped World History by Anthony Vanderlinden he states that the "MI" marking was not unique to FN. I would add, however, that if the part so marked is accompanied by the Waffenamt 140 or Eagle 140 then it would be FN production.

That's interesting. Does he make any mention of what other firms used the MI marking?

 

[mrfarb]

The "u" over stamp is typically used to cancel out waffenamts on parts used on guns not made for military use. My 1944 commercial has u over stamps, so do cutaway rifles.

 

[Guntoter]

That's interesting. Does he make any mention of what other firms used the MI marking?

Unfortunately, no he doesn't. Vanderlinden has some very in depth knowledge of FN and its weapons, but sometimes he does make statements in his books that are not referenced or expanded on.

 

[Bigdibbs88]

Im not really sure how e/140 and FN even made it into this thread? There is no indication of an FN bolt.

I agree with Pisgah on the markings etc. In fact I would say that it is likely the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine were getting even more rifles as the war went on and there were less planes to man and ships confined to port.

 

[gergnotwen]

Im not really sure how e/140 and FN even made it into this thread? There is no indication of an FN bolt.

I agree with Pisgah on the markings etc. In fact I would say that it is likely the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine were getting even more rifles as the war went on and there were less planes to man and ships confined to port.

The reason I brought up the possibility of FN bolt marking was I have seen it on a couple of commercial rifles (look at my photo and you will see the Eagle N commercial proof) and wanted to see if this was a common feature for these odd variants... Apparently not.

 

[Hambone]

The "u" over stamp is typically used to cancel out waffenamts on parts used on guns not made for military use. My 1944 commercial has u over stamps, so do cutaway rifles.

It doesn't look like there's anything under that "u". Would that have been used as some form of inspection or a cancellation or both?

 

[jbmauser]

Im not really sure how e/140 and FN even made it into this thread? There is no indication of an FN bolt.

I agree with Pisgah on the markings etc. In fact I would say that it is likely the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine were getting even more rifles as the war went on and there were less planes to man and ships confined to port.

Sorry. I expanded on the whole FN/MI thing. I didn't realize the pic posted wasn't out of your rifle. I should have looked more closely at the pics in your original posts for comparison.

What Gergnotwen posted is interesting but the rest of the FN stuff is a little off topic I guess.

 

[reich1900]

I find this topic interesting too so I thought I would add some pictures of mine. Maybe a sticky on these would help to gather more information.
Bernie

 

[Hambone]

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