K98 Mauser byf 42.
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Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
Last year I was looking into his User Feedback and the old transactions. He buy a lot barreled receivers and parts, then he is selling complete rifles.
Thank you for This..helped me out a lot.
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
Or paid one of his flunkies to do it... but yes, it doesn't get much more damning.
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
Nice work on your part too! It is really hard to slip much past you guys.
Which website? I'm curious now. haha
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
Dave runs a site where live auctions (among other things) are discussed. If it's ok with the mods ww2weaponsforum(dot)com
You're welcome, we got lucky in your case, - most of the credit goes to you... had you not asked in the right place before you sent payment, no one could have helped.
You saved yourself!
You saved yourself!
mauser99
Senior Member
ltong29
Senior Member
Honestly, Gunbroker probably won't do anything against the seller. Technically, the seller didn't lie about the condition. They didn't make any claims that the rifle is all matching. However, they operate in a highly unethical manor trying to pass off turds as something legitimate and are being intentionally misleading by not stating the entire condition of the rifle. Grey blanket also operates in this manner, but I do believe he does not sell forgeries intentionally, just that they're more apathetic to verifying the integrity of the product.
Also, Gunbroker's fraud policy is pretty poor and similar to insurance (i.e. you need to pay GUNBROKER a $100 deductible in order to receive a maximum claim of $500). Their fraud claims process is more oriented towards situations when the buyer doesn't receive the item as opposed to a seller hocking forgeries. I wouldn't be surprised if Gunbroker shut down the buyer's account and did nothing against the seller. GB is a business, and they make money on seller fees. In my opinion, Gunbroker is a pretty poor platform for buyers
pzjgr
EOD - bombs and bullets
You would be wrong on this point, he does absolutely knowingly sell humped, or Mitchell'd type stuff, fully aware, and mis-represents it. I know for a fact based on a rifle I passed on years ago that he bought, and when we talked about it, my buddy and I let him know the issues, and he said he knew. Appeared on GB 2 or 3 weeks later, described as 100% factory original....
I am not saying he dos it with all his guns, or most, or anything like that, but he knows when he is selling something that isn't 100% and says it is....
ltong29
Senior Member
Well, today I learned
Stephan98k
aka 8x57IS
wholly smokes the old auctions isn't even cold yet ! what a dumb asss...
The old auction when he bought the "duv 42" barreled receiver also wasn't cold and you could clearly see the metamorphose to a matching K98k happened during it was in his property. At that time he described the rifle as completely matching, in the new auctions he's more careful with his words in the description.
Warrior1354
ax - hole
The seller is a complete turd artist he has two more k98 rifles for sale that are both fakes. A bcd 4 and a byf44. Both have their bolts ground and renumbered and the stocks have fake stamps. Not to mention other remembered parts on these rifles. Seller knows what he's doing and should be added to the list of the known humpers on GunBroker right now.
Such as commonwealth, elitecollection, and dragom. Personally I think there should be a wall of shame on this forum that shows these sellers.
Such as commonwealth, elitecollection, and dragom. Personally I think there should be a wall of shame on this forum that shows these sellers.
Rook16
Well-known member
I would agree. Don't take a negative hit; you bid in good faith, and have proof to show to GB that the seller faked/humped the rifle, then mis-represented it to scam a buyer. His bad; and should be reported.