boilerop
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Hey Gents! Not German at least contract wise, but made in Oberndorf, and sold to the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire and its Mauser connection with Germany have a real soft spot for me, as they were involved in a few small wars then the first, second balkan war. Then of course the big one WW1. Not only did they have to survive a World war. Fast forward to 1927-29. The remaining amount of mausers in there original adopted caliber (7.65x53) were to under go a massive upgrade to accept a stock/bolt take down disk. Most were upgraded to the Gewehr 98 style stock, but the biggest upgraded was to upgraded the original and/or add new 8mm barrels which by the late 30s this had been successfully done. People think finding Turkish mausers are easy. Which is not wrong depending what caliber you are talking about. original 7.65x53 guns are some of the rarest WW1 contract guns to aquire. Below is a small selection of original 9.5x60 and 7.65x53 Ottoman mausers.
The pic in the middle is most of them lined up. Theres a few duplicates pictured and a few other duplicates missing.
The Top is indeed not a mauser but a Peabody Martini bought by the Ottomans in 1874.
The next three are all 1887 Model Mausers in 9.5x60. Known also as the last great black powder made by Oberndorf. 220,000 of this contract were made before the switch to the 1890.
Next is a rode hard put up wet 1890 7.65. The First smokeless Ottoman mauser. This finished the original contract for 500,000 guns bought in the initial contract of 1887 black powder. So 280,000 were made as a result of this.
The next is a worn, but honest 1893 in 7.65. 201000 guns were made for this contract. This is also the only Mauser to incorporate a Magazine cutoff.
The next is a Odd but most likely post war conversion of a 1903 long rifle converted by the Ottomans for a Artillery short rifle, as in the 20s they were in need of a carbine/ short rifle. 200,000 guns of the original Long rifle pattern were made. Also chambered in 7.65.
The next is a hard to find 1908 Engineers/Artillery carbine. this is chambered in 7.65x53, and was the only true adopted Smokeless powder carbine Turkey bought. Around 30,000 made. 15000 of the Enginners as pictured below, and there was also a Calvary carbine with swivels located on the left side of the stock, and lacked a cleaning rod. With the rest of the contract being 15,000.
This is not pictured but is slowly coming I Have a 1903 7.65 Long rifle coming which will almost complete the 7.65x53 set.
The last picture is indeed the rarest and hardest to find Ottoman Mauser out there. The 1887 Carbine was originally ordered with the 1887s rifles. A ordered was placed for 50,000 calvary carbines, but by the time this contract came underway. The 1890 Ottoman was adopted and it is estimated only 4000 were produced. These were some of the first guns to be used up and combat and, the survivability rate is super low as there are only a handful left in existence. That have surfaced at least. This one is making it's way from Great Britian. I hooefully should be seeing it in the next few weeks! This also is the only true adopted 71 style carbine adopted by anybody.
Another side note is you will notice how one of the 1893s have a English Style of numbering above the Ottoman Script which is the Ottoman calendar. This is also a very scarce Mauser as this passed Through Belgium where they reissued it to there troops fighting in Flanders against the Germans. This Ottoman 1893 was bought from Germany from the original contract. Where along the lines the Brits most likely captured it, gave it to the Belgians. Belgian Armors then reworked it by adding a Belgian model 1889 mauser rear sight, and added matching serial numbers Through out the guns. This work was done in the Belgian Arms depot located in Calias, France. Where it was then sent to the front to fight against the Germans. This gun is also interesting as it has a "GI" Duffle cut underneath the rear barrel band, so most likely brought back by a US Soldier sometime during WW1 or even possibly WW2.
Thanks for having a read Gents and looking at the Turks!
Thank you Gage.
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The pic in the middle is most of them lined up. Theres a few duplicates pictured and a few other duplicates missing.
The Top is indeed not a mauser but a Peabody Martini bought by the Ottomans in 1874.
The next three are all 1887 Model Mausers in 9.5x60. Known also as the last great black powder made by Oberndorf. 220,000 of this contract were made before the switch to the 1890.
Next is a rode hard put up wet 1890 7.65. The First smokeless Ottoman mauser. This finished the original contract for 500,000 guns bought in the initial contract of 1887 black powder. So 280,000 were made as a result of this.
The next is a worn, but honest 1893 in 7.65. 201000 guns were made for this contract. This is also the only Mauser to incorporate a Magazine cutoff.
The next is a Odd but most likely post war conversion of a 1903 long rifle converted by the Ottomans for a Artillery short rifle, as in the 20s they were in need of a carbine/ short rifle. 200,000 guns of the original Long rifle pattern were made. Also chambered in 7.65.
The next is a hard to find 1908 Engineers/Artillery carbine. this is chambered in 7.65x53, and was the only true adopted Smokeless powder carbine Turkey bought. Around 30,000 made. 15000 of the Enginners as pictured below, and there was also a Calvary carbine with swivels located on the left side of the stock, and lacked a cleaning rod. With the rest of the contract being 15,000.
This is not pictured but is slowly coming I Have a 1903 7.65 Long rifle coming which will almost complete the 7.65x53 set.
The last picture is indeed the rarest and hardest to find Ottoman Mauser out there. The 1887 Carbine was originally ordered with the 1887s rifles. A ordered was placed for 50,000 calvary carbines, but by the time this contract came underway. The 1890 Ottoman was adopted and it is estimated only 4000 were produced. These were some of the first guns to be used up and combat and, the survivability rate is super low as there are only a handful left in existence. That have surfaced at least. This one is making it's way from Great Britian. I hooefully should be seeing it in the next few weeks! This also is the only true adopted 71 style carbine adopted by anybody.
Another side note is you will notice how one of the 1893s have a English Style of numbering above the Ottoman Script which is the Ottoman calendar. This is also a very scarce Mauser as this passed Through Belgium where they reissued it to there troops fighting in Flanders against the Germans. This Ottoman 1893 was bought from Germany from the original contract. Where along the lines the Brits most likely captured it, gave it to the Belgians. Belgian Armors then reworked it by adding a Belgian model 1889 mauser rear sight, and added matching serial numbers Through out the guns. This work was done in the Belgian Arms depot located in Calias, France. Where it was then sent to the front to fight against the Germans. This gun is also interesting as it has a "GI" Duffle cut underneath the rear barrel band, so most likely brought back by a US Soldier sometime during WW1 or even possibly WW2.
Thanks for having a read Gents and looking at the Turks!
Thank you Gage.
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