G98/40 Information

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Hello everyone,

Never had a G98/40 before (actually, never even heard of one until I found this one!) and am downright amazed at how little information there is on these on the internet. Seems all the information is actually on this forum, haha.

Anyways, one of the questions I had for you experts is whether or not the bolt on this piece is original. The numbering on the bolt is the same as on the receiver but does not include the serial block letter and the font just seems... Strange. I've tried to look up some other examples and never saw any others that look like this but also can't find many other 42 examples, so don't know if this is a font "variation."

https://imgur.com/a/5V6uxtT

As for the rifle, I'm quite proud of it. The stock is matching and in very good function state with a number of dings but no cracks. Stamps are a little hard to read, but there's a waffenampt behind the trigger as well as the manufacturing code, serial, and a proofmark on the left side of the stock.

Assuming the bolt is actually matching, the rifle is almost completely matching minus the magazine floorplate.

Another additional question I had is what distinguishes a "high-end" G98/40 from the more typical examples? The reason I ask is because in doing some online research, I see these rifles being listed for around 1.5k$ on Gunbroker but some other examples going as high as 8k$! If it were only one that high, I'd assume some crazy online bidding, but there are multiple examples... I guess what I am asking is, what are collectors looking for in this rifle that might not be obvious to a collector of other firearms?

Thank you guys,

Pat
 
Does the bolt have any other numbered parts? I believe all the individual parts of it should be numbered. Its missing the cleaning rod and the sight hood wich are impossible to find. Looks like a nice rifle
 
I agree with WM, That bolt number looks engraved to me and the font odd compared to the rest of the rifle. Look closely at the style of the #4.
 
I've examined the exterior of the bolt and have not found any other numbers, only the stampings "z" and a worn "ny" (or similar to ny, it is a bit hard to tell as it was a bit worn).

Thank you for your opinions on the bolt number, as I also found it to be odd. I suppose I will try to learn how to take this bolt apart and see what I can find inside.

Thank you all for the replies
 
Fulton bulldog said:
Does the bolt have any other numbered parts? I believe all the individual parts of it should be numbered. Its missing the cleaning rod and the sight hood wich are impossible to find. Looks like a nice rifle
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Yes, the sighthood will be next to impossible to find but the cleaning rod is the same as a long rod for a K98k
 
Your bolt has been force matched (likely because an all matching gun is almost double the price now.) Regardless its a very nice rifle and a matching stock which is a plus because most of them have been sporterized. Below are examples of my bolt and SN. You can tell your bolt has been ground before SN was applied.
 

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Bolt number has definitely been faked. Everything else looks fine to me, though. Is there a serial number on the butt plate?

As described, your 'z' and 'ny' marked bolt components are from a Hungarian 43M rifle bolt. They'll still function fine, but these should have a German-applied serial number (last two digits) on those parts.
 
luftpirate said:
Your bolt has been force matched (likely because an all matching gun is almost double the price now.) Regardless its a very nice rifle and a matching stock which is a plus because most of them have been sporterized. Below are examples of my bolt and SN. You can tell your bolt has been ground before SN was applied.
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Pat said:
Bolt number has definitely been faked. Everything else looks fine to me, though. Is there a serial number on the butt plate?

As described, your 'z' and 'ny' marked bolt components are from a Hungarian 43M rifle bolt. They'll still function fine, but these should have a German-applied serial number (last two digits) on those parts.
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Thank you for the confirmation about the bolt number, I figured that was probably the case given the complete difference in font and the lack of the letter code.

Thank you for the confirmation that the parts are true Hungarian parts, although I don't see a serial number on them, they may have also been removed, as the marks don't look so poorly faked.
 
My pleasure.
The Hungarians numbered far fewer parts on the 43M's (which were built in the same factory and were functional equivalents of the G.98/40 rifles), and the safety on your rifle is definitely from a 43M. They only marked their safeties with a 'z' and 'ny,' not numbers.
 
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