G43 buttplate

[mike44f]

Hi guys, wondering what everyone's opinion is on this buttplate. I've had mixed reviews as to if it is original or not. I'm leaning towards reproduction, but I want to hear a few more opinions.

Mike

 

[agentcq]

I am going to say original. Paint looks correct on the inside and also the odd imperfection etc looks correct. The one thing I do like is the small dimple on the top of the lever opening piece/door. Any repro I have seen has forgotten to add this small dimple.

 

[US1945]

Does it have an ink mark like this one?

The slot (hole, top) of the door isn't perpendicular, I see the same feature on my buttplate.

Best regards Tommy
Us1945@hotmail.com

 

[Tiger 2 Tank]

What are your repro suspicions?

 

[WreckTangle]

Appears to be original, but has been cleaned/buffed possibly with steel wool and a light compound. Pictures are dark, but on the sides you can see what appears to be patterned scratch marks at 45 degree angle.

Attached picture is the butt plate on my K45 AC45 Dual Lug in the mid-C block range--totally unmolested including the stock. Compared the tone and uneven oxidation against yours.

 

[mike44f]

What are your repro suspicions?

My Repro suspicion was only the fact that it came on a newer stock that had a repro barrel band, and the blueing on it is still fairly dark compared to the others I’ve seen that all appeared to be in blued or just lost its blueing. The main thing thing I can compare it to an original for is its construction and heaviness. Definitely not flimsy.

 

[mike44f]

Does it have an ink mark like this one?

The slot (hole, top) of the door isn't perpendicular, I see the same feature on my buttplate.

Best regards Tommy
Us1945@hotmail.com

I’ll double check tonight but I think where that ink mark on yours is, on mine the paint is gone from that section.

 

[Montana7184]

Am I wrong? I didn't think G/K43 buttplates were blued. None of my 5 rifles have blued buttplates.

 

[Brian Kowalski]

they were never blued when issued.

 

[mike44f]

Am I wrong? I didn't think G/K43 buttplates were blued. None of my 5 rifles have blued buttplates.

Hence my suspicions, unless my eyes are playing trick with me or its just got a dark patina. The shade does match, or is close to the same color of one of the original barrel bands I have on another K43. Ill get some more pics up tonight of them next to each other for comparison. The other rifle just got an original buttplate after a long search for one (unfortunately the damn trap door is a repro).

 

[mike44f]

Here's photos with comparisons to a real and original. The center buttplate is the one in question. The original with the repro replaced trap door is identical in weight and thickness of outer walls. Main difference is the finish with the one in question. These photos were taken with the overhead light off, and the final photo was taken with a notebook over top to show the darkness of the one in question, and then the one next to the barrel band shows the similar shade comparison. Buttplate with no interior paint and bigger screw hole is the known repro.

 

[Brian Kowalski]

Looks like an original buttplate that has been probably cold blued post war.

 

[agentcq]

I would say an original butt plate for sure. VoPo rifles have blued butt plates. Notice how the door on the 'repro' does not have the small dimple.