G24(t) Picture Day
- Thread starter AzDoug
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Minus its original contents that box may be interesting. However. Minus what came in it, it has very little value. I do not see the point in separating one from the other. Imagine brinback papers minus the items described on them. Perhaps contact the seller of the rifle to see if he is ready to part with the empty box. I doubt if he collects empty boxes. Hopefully he did not throw it away.
I would hope not.
The situation is not candy sprinkled and pretty, but K98k collecting doesn't need a "Champagne Rune Fraud" situation. By pointing out such conduct, and with people knowing that Loewe and others keep databases which will expose it, we have a more honest hobby which people trust and want to be a part of. We take care of each other by and large, and there is not one cabal or "experts" lording over and profiting from information.
My comments in post #23 were mostly intended as sarcasm. I seriously doubt that your seller collects empty bringback boxes. At best he did not feel like inconveniencing himself and/or spending the extra money to ship it. At worst, as Hambone suggested, it became the bringback box for something else. Notice that my "at best" is not very nice. There is likely no good reason to separate an original, handmade in theater (or retasked container from theater) shipping box from the items that were shipped in it.
I suspect Pisgah is right, the box was an added burden (cost) that he wanted to avoid, - and as it wasn't explicitly promised in the auction, and he was already at a loss (he sold it for less than he paid, plus the additional cost of the stock-parts) he didn't want to compound the loss by sending a box he was under no obligation to send.
Had you inquired, he probably would have sent it if you paid for the postage - costs... most collectors would, as Pisgah rightly states, the box isn't worth much without its contents (rifle).
Also, it never hurts to ask on the forums if a certain rifle has a history, thousands have been recorded and you would be surprised how many have been enhanced in the last 15 years, I see it all the time, usually just swapping m/m parts with ordnance spares or maybe with more correct parts, but often enough outright frauds... If you ask here, either in a post or directly, or on Dave's "auctions" forum, both of which i go to daily, I will do a quickie search. All I ask is reciprocity, in that if you get the rifle you share its data with me or the forum...
Had you inquired, he probably would have sent it if you paid for the postage - costs... most collectors would, as Pisgah rightly states, the box isn't worth much without its contents (rifle).
Also, it never hurts to ask on the forums if a certain rifle has a history, thousands have been recorded and you would be surprised how many have been enhanced in the last 15 years, I see it all the time, usually just swapping m/m parts with ordnance spares or maybe with more correct parts, but often enough outright frauds... If you ask here, either in a post or directly, or on Dave's "auctions" forum, both of which i go to daily, I will do a quickie search. All I ask is reciprocity, in that if you get the rifle you share its data with me or the forum...
Well, I got in contact with the seller. He still has it and he was willing to let the box go. He told me to shoot him an offer, so I offered $50 shipped. He hinted that it was going to take a little more than that, so I guess he can keep it. Too bad. He did tell me that if he remembered correctly, the box was too short, so original stock had to be cut to fit in it.
The box, IIRC, originally only contained the barrelled action in the original sale.
That's the way I understood it.