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First P.38! - byf 43

akriener

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Found this one in a local auction. A little salty - it has been re-blued and there is some pitting visible under that. Post war mag and grips. But, matching serials and seems to be in pretty solid condition after doing a tear down. I'm going to take it to a gunsmith for a thorough look over and then off to the range!

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Thank you for sharing. Maybe not re-blued but “Russian dipped”. I’m not totally sure it hasn’t been re-blued, but my best guess is it has been dipped. I think your grips are Russian too. Looks like it will make a good shooter. Make sure the rear sight isn’t loose (try to wiggle it and see). If it is, you will surely loose it and the slide cover and other little parts during or after the first shot. Make sure you wear eye protection in case something does go wrong. These are older and things do happen.
 
Thank you for sharing. Maybe not re-blued but “Russian dipped”. I’m not totally sure it hasn’t been re-blued, but my best guess is it has been dipped. I think your grips are Russian too. Looks like it will make a good shooter. Make sure the rear sight isn’t loose (try to wiggle it and see). If it is, you will surely loose it and the slide cover and other little parts during or after the first shot. Make sure you wear eye protection in case something does go wrong. These are older and things do happen.

Thanks! Can you give me the quick and dirty on Russian "dipping" vs re-blueing? The sight has a tiny amount of give but I really have to apply some pressure on it.
 
When the Russians captured large quantities of guns, they disassembled them and dunked them into a super thick tar like black “crap” to try and preserve them. So, that’s why they call them “dipped” or “Russian dipped”. Some were dipped in lighter solutions than others. Some were not put together back to matching numbers. I believe once they were dipped, they were put in salt mines for long term storage, hence all the pitting. Russia began selling a lot of these captured P.38’s a while back. They were bought and imported to the U.S. where they entered the gun market. Many of them are also import marked and some weren’t. Some know how to properly get the dip off, but it’s quite a process and not easy. Even once the dip is removed, the gun’s finish is not quite the same after removal.
 
When the Russians captured large quantities of guns, they disassembled them and dunked them into a super thick tar like black “crap” to try and preserve them. So, that’s why they call them “dipped” or “Russian dipped”. Some were dipped in lighter solutions than others. Some were not put together back to matching numbers. I believe once they were dipped, they were put in salt mines for long term storage, hence all the pitting. Russia began selling a lot of these captured P.38’s a while back. They were bought and imported to the U.S. where they entered the gun market. Many of them are also import marked and some weren’t. Some know how to properly get the dip off, but it’s quite a process and not easy. Even once the dip is removed, the gun’s finish is not quite the same after removal.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing. But by that logic of storing in the salt mines, the pitting should have eaten down to the base metal which would involve going through the dip and what was left of the original finish. But the finish on this gun has pitting underneath which would imply it was re-done after removal from said salt mine. Unless it was removed from a mine, and then dipped again. Who knows!
 
True. From my understanding the Russian dipped pistols were stored in salt mines, but that’s “the story” around anyway. Definitely could be re-finished. Definitely could have been re-dipped too I guess. It’s 100% not the original finish the pistol left the factory with.
 
This picture kind of leads me to believe it was dipped. See the pooling of the black tar on the upper surface of the locking block? It’s like it was dipped and then set upside down, pooling the dip. Maybe stored, then after storing and pitting set in, dipped.

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