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Fake Standard Model?

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frankie

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I saw a strange K98 at a gun show yesterday. It was marked Standard Model on the side rail but I could see a very faint S/237 and 1939 on the receiver, looked blued over, with a Mauser logo stamped between. The MO logo showed signs of rusting. No WaA on the receiver. Dealer said it was a Mauser Banner and was very proud of it. No other parts matched the receiver. I’m thinking a phantasy fabrication.
 
what collectors call a Ghost markings.. military marked receiver either rejected or used to fill a Chinese contract which was very important.. They also bring a premium over type that dont have the faint ghost markings..
You should have asked when you were there or go back and try to get more info.. You may have let a good rifle go bye bye... :cry:
 
Now I wish I had taken pics. But I do know the dealer. He had it priced at 1500. I’d like to know more about Ghost markings and why it would have an s/243 AND Mauser logo
 
Pre-war inspectors often rejected parts for minor cosmetic reasons on an otherwise serviceable part. Rather than trash these parts Mauser repurposed them. Many Standard models were built on rejected receivers that had their original markings buffed out and a Mauser Banner and new sidewall markings added. I have seen several and own one. Standard Modells had commercial proofs and minimum serial numbered parts, receiver, bolt, barrel and rear sight, although other parts were often numbered by end users.

Are you sure of the “ghost” marking? the only thing that seems odd is the original receiver marking not being S/42 or 42. I am not aware of Mauser using rejected receivers made by other firms.
 
Well, I could possibly get another look at it next week, pretty sure it was S/237 and definitely 1939.
 
Fulton bulldog said:
Some of the proofs on left side are post war German i believe.
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only the ‘crown over BNP’ mark, “Birmingham Nitro Proof”, from the 1954-1989 period. (I believe) The Crown/B/U/G/N are standard prewar German marks. Roughly, B=proof for foreign(?export) rifles, U=2nd proof, G=rifle, N=smokeless powder. This grouping is fairly common for civilian rifles during the interwar period. Not a specialist on Standardmodells, but the marks seem correct for that rifle, except for the later British proofing.
Just from what I’ve learned here & elsewhere……..
 
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