Early low turret Mauser

[framont]

Hi guys,
This one for review.
All matching numbers included the stock and handguard.
The stock has been polished.
Some pittings on the rifle that has been badly reblued
Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

[framont]

This LT 98K is registered.
Can you help me in valuing such a rifle.
I could be interested to buy it

 

[Absolut]

Do you have any idea which date the rifle is? Is there any barrel date visible under the stock?

The rifle has been altered with the sanded stock and reblued finish that you mention. Based on a Kriegsmodell High Turret without scope recently selling in the US for approximately 6000 Euro I'd see the value of the rifle you have posted at less than that, especially since in Europe the prices are normally lower. The absence of the acceptance (for being an early Low Turret) is uncommon to many and would lead them to believe it is fake, the condition also detracts versus that value.

 

[framont]

Thank you for your answer Absolut.

The WaA 655 is visible everywhere. It is registered on the barrel 39W458 and on the butt heel 5.18.40.
So a rifle made in 1940 for sure.

Maybe it's normal that there is no WaA below the turret and the rear piece and also that the safety is not shortened on an early low turret ?

One more observation, a clumsy person tried to remove the turret by removing the screws. Seeing it remained tied, he hit it with a hammer.

 

[framont]

the damage

 

[framont]

No other comment?
Is it normal that the safety is unmilled on 1940 LT?
Do we know the approximative production of such a rifle.

 

[Absolut]

Maybe it's normal that there is no WaA below the turret and the rear piece and also that the safety is not shortened on an early low turret ?

See Vol. II

 

[JACKDANIELS]

Good morning
It is an interesting rifle and can be an excellent rifle but I do not have the experience of the great specialists
In 1940 it seems to me that the assemblies were assemblies intended for export to Argentina
A clue would be to find a photo of another original rifle with the 1 tang proof on the left rear .

 

[framont]

Concerning the turret and the rear base, no WaA on the photo 52 and 53 of Vol 2. That's Ok for that point.

About the safety (photo nr 53 P 36 Vol 2), this one is ground, but this rifle carries a barrel dated 1941, therefore a rifle manufactured on this date (photo 51) which is not the case on the one featured in this thread . So I would like to know if an un groundsafety on a 1940 rifle is normal. But also when did they start grinding them.

 

[Absolut]

For lack of many so early rifles I think this will be impossible to answer.

BTW, judging from the Argentine scope serial numbers I highly doubt these were made around 1940. Also Argentine turret mounts are different from German ones.

 

[framont]

Many thanks Absolut for these complementary infos.

 

[Philip]

Concerning the turret and the rear base, no WaA on the photo 52 and 53 of Vol 2. That's Ok for that point.

About the safety (photo nr 53 P 36 Vol 2), this one is ground, but this rifle carries a barrel dated 1941, therefore a rifle manufactured on this date (photo 51) which is not the case on the one featured in this thread . So I would like to know if an un groundsafety on a 1940 rifle is normal. But also when did they start grinding them.

Vol 2 states shortened safety flags were introduced in the course of the h block 1943.

 

[bruce98k]

Early low turret pre-production rifles made in 1940 by Mauser Oberndorf are extremely scarce. Only a handful are known to exist.

 

[framont]

Thanks guys for these informations.

 

[framont]

Hi guys, I'm searching an early low turret scope to complete this rifle.
I bought it and after close examination, I can say that it is an unquestionable original low turret rifle.
The condition is better than I thought. All matching numbers.
It will be possible to improve it a little bit more.

 

[framont]

As usual, the inside is in very good condition.
The stock has not been polished, but varnished.
Better like that, but It will take a little patience to remove this varnish which seems to hold well.
The date 5.18.40. is visible inside the stock (not on the butt heel like mentioned in the beginning of this thread).

 

[JACKDANIELS]

The number 2 signifies a barrel change, right?

 

[Dave Roberts]

Concerning the turret and the rear base, no WaA on the photo 52 and 53 of Vol 2. That's Ok for that point.

About the safety (photo nr 53 P 36 Vol 2), this one is ground, but this rifle carries a barrel dated 1941, therefore a rifle manufactured on this date (photo 51) which is not the case on the one featured in this thread . So I would like to know if an un groundsafety on a 1940 rifle is normal. But also when did they start grinding them.

My early Mauser LT does not have a ground/milled safety , in fact every period photo that I have seen all have a standard type safety lever . Theres also a number of period photos that show later/1943 LT also having the standard type safety levers .

 

[mdarnell19]

My early Mauser LT does not have a ground/milled safety , in fact every period photo that I have seen all have a standard type safety lever . Theres also a number of period photos that show later/1943 LT also having the standard type safety levers .

Wait..... you have an early Mauser LT? I need to call you so I can talk you out of it. I don't have a low turret in my collection

 

[framont]

My early Mauser LT does not have a ground/milled safety , in fact every period photo that I have seen all have a standard type safety lever . Theres also a number of period photos that show later/1943 LT also having the standard type safety levers .

Thanks for confirming that point.
Yours is in great condition.