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DUV 41 former sporter restoration

I recently found a DUV 41 at one of my favorite LGS. The receiver, bolt, front sight, and floor plate all had matching numbers (428 I) and it came with a cloth bag that a GI placed the disassembled rifle barrel and/or duffle cut stock in with his stateside address here in Denver. It was adorned in a solid walnut stock with non-matching barrel bands and buttplate. It also had a non- matching rear sight base, spring and leaf that bore witness to the original having been removed to make way for a rear peep sight (evidenced by two small holes just in front of the bolt handle. The rifle’s bluing was in outstanding condition, but the former owner had placed his initials in several discreet locations on the rifle’s metal.

I debated on whether to buy, but I had some store credit from a couple of consignment sales burning a hole in my pocket. I also liked the fact that it was made in Lubeck as I had visited there as an exchange student back in the mid-1980s. So, emotion prevailed over logic and I decided to make this my first former sporter restoration.

After the purchase, I pulled out my trusty K98k Vol II books and learned that this rifle should have a laminate stock with an early cupped buttplate. So I sorted through a pile of stocks in the warehouse at that favorite LGS and found a Yugo captured one marked with a 1941 production date and a waa 214 marked bayonet lug. I got waa214 barrel bands and rear sight components off of eBay, along with an early cupped buttplate. The front and rear sights came off with the help of a propane torch and some gentle persuasion with a rubber mallet and a wood block. The correct rear sight base and original firing sight base went on fairly smoothly after some guidance from YouTube. I refinished the Yugo stock with BLO cut with mineral spirits and then used Tom’s 1/3 mix to make the splinters from the unsanded stock less painful on the hands. Finally, I found a nice early war sling in the LGS warehouse and here is the finished project.

Lessons learned:
1. It really is an expensive undertaking to restore a former sporter.
2. I’m definitely upside down in this rifle but that is ok as I don’t plan to sell it.
3. It will never be an untouched original, but it has some neat qualities that endear it to me.
4. I learned a lot in completing this project (most importantly, try to avoid brushing a finger up against hot metal ever again).
5. It was a fun project that kept me out of all sorts of other trouble (including my wife’s honey do list) for awhile.
6. It gave me the chance to look up the former owner and develop some internet sleuthing skills.
 

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Turns out the former owner was a detective here in Denver, CO who passed in 1967. His daughter recently passed and someone brought it to my favorite LGS. Haven’t been able to find the former owner’s service records.
 
The bag is the most interesting thing to me there, especially the fact that he bothered to put the gun's SN on it.

With all the standard caveats that a restored sporter isn't a matching gun, I do think that bag adds a little extra something to it and you might not be as underwater on it as you think you are. Any kind of bringback box, papers, etc. is an attractive grouping to have with a weapon and all too frequently they are really hard to tie to that specific gun because of the generic ways that they were written (e.g. all the papers that just say "German rifle" or the like and which get passed around both with and without weapons)
 
The bag is the most interesting thing to me there, especially the fact that he bothered to put the gun's SN on it.

With all the standard caveats that a restored sporter isn't a matching gun, I do think that bag adds a little extra something to it and you might not be as underwater on it as you think you are. Any kind of bringback box, papers, etc. is an attractive grouping to have with a weapon and all too frequently they are really hard to tie to that specific gun because of the generic ways that they were written (e.g. all the papers that just say "German rifle" or the like and which get passed around both with and without weapons)
The bag with the name and rifle s/n is what appealed most to me when I was deciding whether to buy and undertake this project.
 
Actually, it came from Ace Hardware some years ago

Lol, okay. Regardless, the Germans never used Boiled linseed oil as a stock finish. Never. So many stocks have been ruined by improper finishing techniques and outdated information. What I don’t understand is why people are still doing it? I would say 99% of the time we hear are “I was trying to give it an original period finish so I did 7 coats of BLO”. Well… it’s not period correct and the finish does not look “original”. In time, as the metals and drying accelerators in BLO do their work, it will almost make the stock look black. Don’t get me wrong, it’s your property to do as you please, but why not just use somewhat period correct european raw linseed oil? Amazon sells a product that is a raw linseed oil from Denmark for example.

The bottom line is, the difference between both products in regards to final finish on a stock are miles apart.
 
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Lol, okay. Regardless, the Germans never used Boiled linseed oil as a stock finish. Never. So many stocks have been ruined by improper finishing techniques and outdated information. What I don’t understand is why people are still doing it? I would say 99% of the time we hear are “I was trying to give it an original period finish so I did 7 coats of BLO”. Well… it’s not period correct and the finish does not look “original”. In time, as the metals and drying accelerators in BLO do their work, it will almost make the stock look black. Don’t get me wrong, it’s your property to do as you please, but why not just use somewhat period correct european raw linseed oil? Amazon sells a product that is a raw linseed oil from Denmark for example.

The bottom line is, the difference between both products in regards to final finish on a stock are miles apart.
I appreciate that advice and will look for that product next time I refinish a stock.
 
I appreciate that advice and will look for that product next time I refinish a stock.

Again, please don’t take it the wrong way. I’m not trying to be a judgmental jerk or beat you up. It’s just more times than not, members here are trying to go for that “correct WW2 finish” with modern BLO and/or Tung oil, etc after aggressively cleaning their stock. Trust me, it just won’t look right and any collector worth his salt will spot it a mile away. Some people don’t care, it’s their rifle and that’s that. Most seasoned collectors though rarely ever touch the stock at all. I get it though, it’s a resto with a refinished donor yugo capture stock. It’s not like you slathered BLO on untouched Mauser Oberndorf kriegsmodell stock…

For what it worth, it seems like you had a nice journey with it. That’s what counts.
 
^^^ Yes. However the same principle applies to standard BLO as well. Especially when one uses mineral spirits or other petroleum products to thin the oil. No doubt caution must be exercised. Personally I just burn the cotton rags afterwords in my burn drum.
 
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