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[Hambone]

Also here is a Bren machine gun, British only that funnily has a brass disk only. Safe to say disks were a British thing.

Bren machine gun | Light machine gun, British Army, World War II | Britannica

Bren machine gun, British adaptation of a Czech light machine gun. Its name originated as an acronym from Brno, where the Czech gun was made, and Enfield, where the British adaptation was made. Gas-operated and air-cooled, the Bren was first produced in 1937 and became one of the most widely used

www.britannica.com

This WWI rifle supports my claim that the British liked using the disks but eventually stopped sometime later in WW2 or post.

British Enfield Rifle M1917 · World War I Exhibits

This website is a student-curated exhibit of World War I materials held in McFarlin Library Special Collections at The University of Tulsa. It originated as a series of projects in the English Department's World War I course to commemorate the Centenary. The collection features a wide array of...

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And if this doesn’t send the bolt home, not sure what can. Maybe a forward assist?
Picture of a British soldier and disk.
Both links showing British soldiers using enfields with visible stock disks.
Can’t get more evident than that. This was WWI. I’ll show WWII soon.

Weapons used in World War I

An Official Journal Of The NRA | Over There: Sniper Rifles and Shotguns in World War I

Watch this American Rifleman Television video segment 'Over There! Part 8' to learn about the role of American snipers in World War I, the use of "trench gun" shotguns and the end of World War I.

www.americanrifleman.org

No offense, but you type a lot and read very little.

 

[Gunsmokes]

No offense, but you type a lot and read very little.

Google British stock disks. You’ll see museum posts to people selling disks for refurbishment of these old rifles. It’s a known fact the British used the disks. You stating the commonwealth made
and used them is just not accurate. Please research this and let me know what you find.

Also that comment is just absurd. We can have discourse without getting like that. The point of a forum.

Seems like you’re stuck on it only being your way. Unfortunately that’s not how history sees it. Proof has been posted and literal pictures of British soldiers holding rifles with the disks. Anyone who collects British war period stuff will not even bat and eye at this. Not sure why you don’t see this isn’t the commonwealth.

 

[Gunsmokes]

People have already discussed the British stock disks previously.

See thread: https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/bizarre-stock-disc.47192/

 

[Gunsmokes]

Here are the British marching training to go to France (1939) with stock disks…..

 

[Hambone]

I never said they weren’t British. However, It makes far more sense given known provenance that they were other Commonwealth, probably Indian, also supported by the markings and history. The discs were clearly installed AFTER the AA / broad arrow depot stamp. That’s either Alexandria or Alhallabad India. There is no sense in debating you on this topic unless you will read and comprehend. However, if you do that there is no debate. One theory could be that after capture and storage at Alexandria Depot, a British Military Provost unit took them into custody and inventory (why?) and inlet unit ID discs into them (why?) and then sent them to India / Goa where the Indians acquired them in the Goa war and surplused them in the 60s. Also, the British ordered removal of unit ID discs from rifles in 1940. Why would the British have MP units using K98ks in India or Goa after 1945? India got its official independence in 1947. So post 1947 when the Brits were out of India and post 1941 when Brit regs forbade unit marking discs how would a K98k get Brit MP marking discs?

 

[Hambone]

Here are the British marching training to go to France (1939) with stock disks…..

And show me a pic of British troops using any rifles with unit marked disks after 1941. They were ordered removed by 1940. These K98ks were likely collected after the fall of the DAK, which would have been May of 1943, or certainly no earlier than 1942, I think the first major defeat being Alamein. Can you understand the issues and time lines here? No one is arguing that the British did not put stock disks in their Enfields, or even No.2 pistol grips for that matter prior to 1941. However, all other Commonwealth countries did this as well as they followed generally the same regs. Since you won't read or comprehend what's been plainly stated, there is no reason to point out the obvious any further.

Note: I looked at prior posts and arguments, e.g., concerning leather treatment. I think you need to do all this at Gunboards and Facebook forums where the people are more receptive and appreciative.

 

[pzjgr]

Gunsmokes should read this book...

https://www.amazon.com/Broad-Arrow-British-Production-Inspection/dp/0949749435

Written by Ian Skennerton, a guy who has forgotten more than Gunsmokes will ever know about British and Commonwealth arms...this book is the go to for figuring out unit markings on the discs. Amazingly there are lists of unit marks for...British, Canadian, South African, Australian, New Zealand, Indian, and many other Commonwealth countries...if only the British utilized marking discs and added them to rifles, there wouldn't be all these Commonwealth countries who had unit markings on discs.

The concept that marking discs were only added by the British to small arms is ludicrous.