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CYQ (cvq) P-38, a prefix 9016

mrfarb said:
Your getting some incorrect info here. The number under the grip is a production tracking number. The pistol isn’t reblued, and fyi cyq pistols have blued locking blocks. But, look at the pin that holds the locking block in, if it’s got a black finish it’s dipped. The Russians sprayed the guns with some kind of brownish/black spray over the original blue, it comes off leaving the original blue which comes out real shiny like yours. Someone removed the Russian dip on most of it and did a good job imo. It’s a keeper.


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I’ve never heard of nor seen a blued locking block, when/what year was this done?


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All cyq pistols I have ever owned have blued locking blocks, my c block is early 43 All the way to my zero series. This only applies to Spreewerk pistols.


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mrfarb said:
All cyq pistols I have ever owned have blued locking blocks, my c block is early 43 All the way to my zero series. This only applies to Spreewerk pistols.


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That’s odd, the three I have owned all had the standard finish and weren’t blued. I’ve never heard of them being blued, I’m going to have to look into this more on my end! Sorry for the incorrect info and thanks for the lesson!


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Oldnrth said:
That’s odd, the three I have owned all had the standard finish and weren’t blues. I’ve never heard of them being blues, I’m going to have to look into this more on my end! Sorry for the incorrect info and thanks for the lesson!


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No need to apologize friend, that's what we're all here for. Half the fun of being on these forums is engaging with folks who share the same passion as you. It's all good at the end of the day.
 
Herk1994 said:
No need to apologize friend, that's what we're all here for. Half the fun of being on these forums is engaging with folks who share the same passion as you. It's all good at the end of the day.
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I’m glad someone else had the knowledge, hate to see nice guns get destroyed as shooters!


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I may be going against the grain here, but all of the pictures I've seen make the gun look dipped. The finish looks thick and the second set of pictures where the top part of the frame looks brownish is a telltale sign.
See this post: http://p38forum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=289973

None of the pictures are in great lighting, so it could just be the pictures. Either way, I think it's expected that most guns that late from Spreewerk were dipped.

As for the larger E/88, I haven't really studied the late war Spreewerks to see if that's common, but the larger E/88 was used on the early Spreewerks. I vaguely recall seeing a late war one with the earlier stamp once before but for the life of me cannot remember what the thread was.

The mag is definitely for an earlier war Spreewerk. By that time in the war the JVD mags were all stamped WaA/706. A P.38 with a large U magazine would be considered correct for that gun. Most manufacturers moved to an unhardened magazine by the end to speed up production.
 
Very nice gun but reblued beyond doubt. Grips should be five line grips made by Posselt. These are from AEG. Nice example of broken die cyq code on the slide, where the y looks like a v.
 
tsmgguy said:
Very nice gun but reblued beyond doubt. Grips should be five line grips made by Posselt. These are from AEG. Nice example of broken die cyq code on the slide, where the y looks like a v.
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Reblued? Or dipped? There’s conflicting information here.
 
Dipped pistols are not considered to be reblued. The finish does change when it’s stripped, but the term reblue gives the idea it was stripped and refinished, which isn’t what happened.


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mrfarb said:
It’s no problem. I was surprised when I learned. It may be that over the years collectors removed the blue on some thinking they weren’t correct. In the thread below Ron is the American counterpart of the cyq book.


http://p38forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32939&highlight=Blued+locking+block+cyq


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The German handgun collecting hobby is rife with this stuff. Cleaning muzzles to white on salt blued lugers is a good example of this. Same with late 1937 first variations and blued rails and frame interior, mix of rust and salt blue.
 
mrfarb said:
Dipped pistols are not considered to be reblued. The finish does change when it’s stripped, but the term reblue gives the idea it was stripped and refinished, which isn’t what happened.




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Now you got me wonder what mine is, looking... I remember from notes is W block 1663.
 
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