BYF45 Stone Mint - possibly unfired

When they are pointing out the bolt cut out, it is the edges you need to look at...see how sharp and defined the edges are in the picture posted by Bruce? Now compare to the rounded smooth edges on yours, a surefire, telltale sign of sanding. Also, as was pointed out, the button on the recoil lug you can see the missing finish where it was hit by the sandpaper or steel wool. These clues stick out light flashing lights to hard core 98k collectors, where the true untouched stocks are king. As also stated a lot of the hard-core guys wouldn't touch a stock like that...but thats just their own collector ethos.

Its a very nice gun, but its not as pristine as one might think from a 98k collectors point of view. There are tons of more casual, or entry to mid-level collectors who would happily snap it up...
 
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When they are pointing out the bolt cut out, it is the edges you need to look at...see how sharp and defined the edges are in the picture posted by Bruce? Now compare to the rounded smooth edges on yours, a surefire, telltale sign of sanding. Also, as was pointed out, the button on the recoil lug you can see the missing finish where it was hit by the sandpaper or steel wool. These clues stick out light flashing lights to hard core 98k collectors, where the true untouched stocks are king. As also stated a lot of the hard-core guys wouldn't touch a stock like that...but thats just their own collector ethos.

Its a very nice gun, but its not as pristine as one might think from a 98k collectors point of view. There are tons of more casual, or entry to mid-level collectors who would happily snap it up...
That’s well put. The blueing is very nice, may be even exceptional on this example, but the touched up stock knocks it down a peg for many here. It’s a good example OP
 
Here's a shot of my byf45 showing what the bolt relief and stock finish on your rifle should have looked like before it was bleached and sanded. Also note the rough chattered texture around the wrist, which is a characteristic of many late-war stocks. A previous owner of yours presumably considered this unsightly and "improved" it.

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Very tough crowd. Someone shows off a super nice byf45 and gets teached a lesson on stock refinish :D . There are quite high quality standards among us ;) . Just to make it sure to have it mentioned, your rifle is super nice and I'd love to have it, despite the stock most possibly being refinished. Most even get to something this nice at all. Thank you for showing us this great piece and be proud of it!
 
Must have been fired quite a bit to split the grip area like that.
& maybe its the pix, but the lug doesn’t look bad, as they often do when the wrist splits like that. recoil lug is one of the 1st things i look at on any stock. as i look at pic 10/10 from post#1 (the wrist split) i notice zero gap around the tang, because the action has moved backwards, possibly because it was fired w/loose screws? there should be a narrow gap all the way around it like in the photo below (borrowed from the picture reference, Bruce’s rifle, very similar to yours.

 
& maybe its the pix, but the lug doesn’t look bad, as they often do when the wrist splits like that. recoil lug is one of the 1st things i look at on any stock. as i look at pic 10/10 from post#1 (the wrist split) i notice zero gap around the tang, because the action has moved backwards, possibly because it was fired w/loose screws? there should be a narrow gap all the way around it like in the photo below (borrowed from the picture reference, Bruce’s rifle, very similar to yours.

If you look closely at the pics of the magazine well area of the stock, you can see the typical horizontal crack showing that the wood backing the recoil bolt has let go. If it's going to be shot this needs to be repaired along with the wrist crack. Yes, everyone should keep their receiver screws snug, no need to make them gorilla tight. Just sayin. :)
 
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If you look closely at the pics of the magazine well area of the stock, you can see the typical horizontal crack showing that the wood backing the recoil bolt has let go. If it's going to be shot this needs to be repaired along with the wrist crack. Yes, everyone should keep their receiver screws snug, no need to make them gorilla tight. Just sayin. :)
you’re right, i see it now, needed more squinting at.
 
Wait mike no take-down at all? I know that the semi with a lug and take-down in the butt is very uncommon and I would happily consider less than perfect stock given rarely, but do you think they just missed drilling the butt? I’m not questioning it being legit, just that I’ve never seen that and it would be very special. Stock proofs look good. Did WMO drill in one step with the buttplate in place?
 
If you look closely at the pics of the magazine well area of the stock, you can see the typical horizontal crack showing that the wood backing the recoil bolt has let go. If it's going to be shot this needs to be repaired along with the wrist crack. Yes, everyone should keep their receiver screws snug, no need to make them gorilla tight. Just sayin. :)
Torqued down to 18 lbs :3
 
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