bnz45 2739r comments please!

[Maximvs]

I have a couple questions about this rifle. The barrel band screws look like pan head machine screws but have the same finish as the bands. Has anyone observed similar screws used instead of the wood screws? The bolt is not matching and here is a circled z on the safety which I interpret as a Czech part. Was the circled z used on war manufactured rifles? I would appreciate any thoughts and comments on this rifle and observations of any irregularities in its configuration. The bore is bright and shows little if any use.

 

[moconfed]

Those screws are stinkers. Definitely the wrong ones!

 

[moconfed]

The circle z does denote a Czech part. There's an ongoing discussion in regards to those parts in particular. Czech it out.

 

[Northyuma]

Stock proof is too fresh and crisp. That’s a re-stamp.

 

[swjXE]

I like the stock proof!

 

[mrfarb]

I agree, stock inspection looks fine. Screws are replacements.

 

[Maximvs]

I agree, stock inspection looks fine. Screws are replacements.

Could it not have left the factory with those screws? They have the same bluing as the bands.

 

[SVW1945]

Those screws where added . Someone tweaked the color to match in my estamation. I like the stock stamp .

 

[Maximvs]

I just realized I posted this in the 1945 postwar forum. Is there anyway I can tag this for the war period?

 

[CanadianAR]

Moved to wartime forum.

Agree the stock acceptance is fine .

Screws are bad.

A member here Fal Grunt makes exact copies of originals, check out the for sale section.

 

[mrfarb]

Yes, screws are the wrong type. Should have said that, finish is inconsequential.

 

[Maximvs]

Moved to wartime forum.

Agree the stock acceptance is fine .

Screws are bad.

A member here Fal Grunt makes exact copies of originals, check out the for sale section.

Many thanks!

 

[M1903A3]

The circle z does denote a Czech part. There's an ongoing discussion in regards to those parts in particular. Czech it out.

Yea indeed, and here is a rifle that might help us decide firmly whether or not “circle Z” parts are wartime or not.

OP can you please take photos of the rest of the bolt and show any and all markings on the parts? Thank you! Very cool rifle by the way.

 

[Maximvs]

Many thanks!

Yea indeed, and here is a rifle that might help us decide firmly whether or not “circle Z” parts are wartime or not.

OP can you please take photos of the rest of the bolt and show any and all markings on the parts? Thank you! Very cool rifle by the way.

Here are a couple. I will take some more.

 

[Maximvs]

Yes, screws are the wrong type. Should have said that, finish is inconsequential.

Any thoughts about why the screws are not correct? Did someone pick up the gun with no screws and felt a need to add them perhaps? Do you th the original screws might have been lost and then replaced with whatever was at hand?

 

[mrfarb]

Replacement hardware store screws in bnz45’s like this are extremely common.

 

[Maximvs]

Are missing band screws common?

 

[mrfarb]

I have owned several out of the closet guns with no screws. I have 1 right now - but usually people bought hardware store screws and blued/installed them.

bnz45 with "extra" from the vet

Continuing the theme of vet bring backs (without papers) and small things that can make a find that much better, I present this bnz45. Late unfinished T block rifle, typical of this type- no screws holding the bands on, no final acceptance, no final Eagle H on stock. Stock is ill fitting, mixed...

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[Maximvs]

Here are a couple. I will take some more.

More bnz45 bolt pics:

 

[Maximvs]

I have owned several out of the closet guns with no screws. I have 1 right now - but usually people bought hardware store screws and blued/installed them.

bnz45 with "extra" from the vet

Continuing the theme of vet bring backs (without papers) and small things that can make a find that much better, I present this bnz45. Late unfinished T block rifle, typical of this type- no screws holding the bands on, no final acceptance, no final Eagle H on stock. Stock is ill fitting, mixed...

www.k98kforum.com

Thanks for your expertise. Would you recommend that I replace these screws with repros; originals; remove them, or leave as is?