bnz 4 m block handstamp on salvage BSW receiver was it all original?

[Jakeman664]

This just went across the auction block, I don't know enough about these to go all in so skipped it. Had matching bolt, barrel, and floorplate. At best someone got a great deal, at worst it was a sporter rescue
What gave me concern:
Unnumbered bands (the ones in the sticky all have serialed bands)
Possible remnants of a post war serial on the side of stock
Possible filled in scope hole on rear of receiver

 

[nirvana]

God bubba always gets the good one.

 

[RyanE]

Skipping it was the right call. What a mess.

 

[Turbo Archie]

rear site was removed while sporterized. You can see the rounded step on the barrel common on some sporters.

 

[bnz41john]

Neat rifle, but definitley a restored sporter that someone's passed off as original.

 

[heavy_mech]

It seems the hand stamped, salvage receiver part is legit as it falls right in the reported blocks. It also sure looks like filled holes from a peep sight on the receiver.

 

[Cyrano4747]

How rare are the salvaged receivers? Worth putting up with metal repairs for the right price if you needed one for your collection, or still a hard pass?

Metal that's been cut on is almost always a very firm red line for me, but I don't have any real understanding of how uncommon these are.

 

[heavy_mech]

How rare are the salvaged receivers? Worth putting up with metal repairs for the right price if you needed one for your collection, or still a hard pass?

That's somewhat hard to answer and up to the individual I'd guess. They appear for around 25k or so worth of production but not all are of the type. I don't have enough hard data, but it seems bcd diverts and new ordinance spares make up the majority with salvage rounding out the receivers.

Metal that's been cut on is almost always a very firm red line for me, but I don't have any real understanding of how uncommon these are.

I've always thought the same but I've seen much worse than this. I can't be certain it's filled holes, but SOMETHING is going on there.

 

[Cyrano4747]

I've always thought the same but I've seen much worse than this. I can't be certain it's filled holes, but SOMETHING is going on there.

Yeah, the bright shiny spot down towards the bottom of the blemish makes me think a screw hole that was covered up, but I've been wrong before. Could have been something brased on there at one point too?

Either way, whatever was done there was done after the bluing.

 

[heavy_mech]

This just went across the auction block, I don't know enough about these to go all in so skipped it. Had matching bolt, barrel, and floorplate. At best someone got a great deal, at worst it was a sporter rescue
What gave me concern:
Unnumbered bands (the ones in the sticky all have serialed bands)

They did go with a reduced S/N routine in the m block, but it seems it was an all or nothing deal and not piecemeal. If the FP is numbered the bands and safety should be too. With unnumbered bands the FP and safety should also be unnumbered. At least that's my understanding.

 

[Jakeman664]

I know enough to get myself in trouble but there's a lot of variation in this series. All I could tell was I knew the numbers were good and in the correct block for the variation. I wasn't sure if it was a scope hole on the rear or just an imperfection they tried to clean up during production and why it was a salvage receiver. Glad I caught the red flags.

 

[Loewe]

It seems the hand stamped, salvage receiver part is legit as it falls right in the reported blocks. It also sure looks like filled holes from a peep sight on the receiver.

Accurate, L-N blocks seem most prevalent- ignore the trivial parts as the receiver types are in front...


853 l – (II) (NF) RR- e/623(?), Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BS “6”) (RS base-scale e/623-853)

1161 l – (II) (NF) RR- e/623(?) x2, Mod.98 SBO/s-FPBO (BC DQ BS “1”) (possible V/6 circle under rec.)

1341 l – (I) (NF) RR- e/623, Mod.98 SBO/s-FPBO (BS-5)

2986 l – (I) (NF) RR- e/623 x2, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPB (BC-DO, BS-1)

3054 l – (II) (NF) RR- “probable e/623, Mod.98, SBO (FPBO)

3199 l – (II) (NF) RR NA, Mod.98 SBO (FPBO) (BC DQ) rc

4035 l – (IIIbcd/4)(NF)RR-“l” e/1, e/623 x1,Mod.98, SBO(FPBO)(BC-DX BS-“1”) (RS scale e/623)

4887 l – (Ia) (NF) RR NA, SRNA, SBO (FPBO) (BS “2”) rc

5521 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1 e/623, Mod.98, SBO-FPBO (BS “2”)

6015 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1 e/623, Mod.98, SBO (FPBO) (RSS-slide e/623 RS base e/77)

7014 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR NA, Mod.98, SBO (FPBO) (BC DM BS “1”) (SR)

7409 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1 e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DN BS “1”) (SR)

7785 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1 e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DL BS “5”)

7871 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1 e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BS “2”)

8282 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1 e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BS “6”)

8501 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RRNA, SRNA, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DQ BS “1”) rc

8650 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DX BS “5”) RSS e/623 rc

8737 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1 e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DN BS “2”)

9072 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1 (e/623), Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DX)

9280 l – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR “l” e/1, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DN BS “5”)



405 m – (bcd4-BNZ HS) (NF) RR l e/1 e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO, (DL bnz/1)

1098 m – (e/359-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/359, e/623, Mod.98, SBO (FPBO) (BC DL) rc

1107 m – (e/359-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/359, Mod.98, SBO (FPBO) (BC DQ) rc

1171 m – (e/359-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/359, Mod.98, SBO (FPBO) rc

1592 m – (BSW-BNZ HS) (NF) RR BSW e/4, e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DW) rc

1755 m – (BSW-BNZ HS) (NF) RR BSW e/4, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO rc

1833 m – (bcd/41-BNZ HS) (NF) RR l e/1, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPB

2762 m – (Amberg16-BNZ HS) (NF) RR NA, Gew.98, SBO (FPBO)

3092 m – (BNZHS)(NF) RR e/359 e/623, SBO/s-FPBO (BS “2” BC D*)

3110 m – (98b-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/623 (e/6 e/43 x2 S), Karab.98b, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DV BS “1”)

3368 m – (e/359-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/359 x1 e/623 x1, Mod.98, SBO (FPBO) (BC DY BS-1)

4040 m - (98b-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/623 (e/6 e/43 x2 S), Karab.98b, SBO-FPBO (BC DV BS “2”)

5267 m – (I) (NF) RR e/623 x2, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (DY bnz/1 BS-1)

5741 m – (I) (NF) RR e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO

5925 m – (I) (NF) RR e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC- DY BS- 6?)

6197 m – (I) (NF) RR e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO 6364 m – (Spandau16-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/623 Gew.98, SBO (FPBO) (BC DY)

7492 m - (II) (NF) RR NA Mod.98, SBO (FPBO) (BC EA BS “1”)

7607 m - (WMO/15-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/623, Gew.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BS-5)

8856 m - (I) (NF) RR e/623 x2 SBO-FPBO (BC EB BS 1) (RS base e/623)

8858 m - (I) (NF) RR e/77 x1, e/623 x1 SBO (FPBO) (BC EB) (report)



458 n – (II) (NF) RR e/623 x2, SRNA, SBO (FPBO) (BC ED BS “2”) (e/623 RSS & base FS, RSS SR, e/77 slide)

1937 n – (II) (NF) RR NA, Mod.98, SBO-FPBO (BC-DE, BS-“5”)

3472 n – (II) (NF) RR e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (CRS e/623 ser.72) (BC-ED, BS-“5”)

4627 n – (II) (NF) RR e/623, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DW bnz/1-BS-7) (RSS e/623)

5029 n – (II) (NF) RR e/623 x1, Mod.98, SBO (FPBO) (BC EF BS “5”)(“V/7” receiver bridge)

5352 n – (II) (NF) RRNA, Mod.98, SBO (FPBO) (BC DE BS “5”) rc

6292 n – (II) (NF) RRNA KCN-May 1994 report

6527 n – (II) (NF) RR e/623 x2, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC ED BS “5”) rc

8147 n – (byf42-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/623 e/135 x2 Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DJ BS “5”)RSS e/623

8570 n – (S42G-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/623 e/211 K/167, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DN BS “1”)

8764 n – (II) (NF) RR e/623 x2, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC- DY BS-5)

8928 n – (II) (NF) RR e/623 x2, Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO(BC- DY – BS “2”) (bright blued)

9302 n – (byf41-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/623 e/135 x3 Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC DY – BS “2”)

9393 n – (ce/43-BNZ HS) (NF) RR e/623 e/359 Mod.98, SBO/s-FPBO (BC-DL - BS-2)

 

[heavy_mech]

With Loewe data trends I can see 2 other BSW salvage receivers with the same RR a few thousand earlier and that the barrel code DX BS/1 falls right in the 3xxx m timeframe.

 

[Loewe]

With Loewe data trends I can see 2 other BSW salvage receivers with the same RR a few thousand earlier and that the barrel code DX BS/1 falls right in the 3xxx m timeframe.

You interpret the gibberish well!