BCD/AR Dual Code ZF-41 Sniper 8013A

[Hercules]

BCD/AR 1942 ZF-41 rifle 8013A.

 

[Hercules]

Zf-41- BCD/AR 42 and AR 42 Marked Receivers

 

[Xavier]

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Hello
what is the letter block ?
regards

 

[tonino7]

Hercules , any WaA markings present on the right side of the rear sight base ?

 

[sauer]

Hello
what is the letter block ?
regards

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xavier

 

[Hercules]

Hercules , any WaA markings present on the right side of the rear sight base ?

Yes. A faint WaA26.

 

[sauer]

hello hercules
one question: what you have there ? a number,a letter?
your receiver is it numbered?

 

[mauser99]

For what its worth My comments wont change much from the posts on the ww2weapons forum. The stock cutout looks a little sloppy but, I cant see any real red flags with the rifle. More detailed shots of the base would be needed. Does the front site base ever look like it was removed ?

 

[mauser99]

I have seen you on there and I assumed you read the combined comments there. There really were no negatives. The cut being a bit sloppy isn't the kiss of death. I sure haven't seen every zf41 rifle made. I do feel they are done with a jig with some sort of router and are normally very consistent. Its an ar code so its 100% correct that it could be a legit zf41 rifle.

 

[tonino7]

No WaA there. Thanks for your interest.

I made the question about WaAs on the right side because the K98s ar42 with ZF41 have two WaA26 markings there . Your dual code is built on a bcd receiver but it was completed at the Mauser Borsigwald factory in 1942 , so the missing of the WaA markings it's odd ( but may be it's normal on these double coded , we need to observe more rifles of the same origin to be sure ).

 

[sauer]

That is fine to say, but post pictures of the AR 42 ZF41's with WaA on the rear sight please. I did check the pic sticky area and there are no photos to back up this. Otherwise it is hard for to see the merit in the opinion you are expressing. However, I do appreciate your input.

there never wa26 on the side for the dual code

 

[sauer]

it should be noted that you have a cone type rail 3
knowing that there are 3 types rail AR for the year 42

 

[Rrudo74901]

Hercules,
For what it's worth, and my knowledge is very limited and I rely heavily on these guys, you got a nice rifle. If it had the correct earlier zf41 I would have been bidding myself. I think you did well and at a good price point.
Congrats and good luck.

 

[tonino7]

Hercules, never wrote that your rifle is not original !I just noted that mine has two more WaA26.Probably it depends from the different kind of receiver used in the assembly of the rifles.Photos of my ar42 on the way...

 

[Absolut]

Not sure what all these WaAs should be about, but this is from my BCD/AR42 ZF41 rifle. And yes, this is also the rifle pictured in Robert Spielauers book.

 

[Absolut]

... And when I was already disassembling, this is one of my AR42 rifles.

 

[tonino7]

Here you have some photos of my ar42

 

[mike radford]

Hercules,
For what it's worth, and my knowledge is very limited and I rely heavily on these guys, you got a nice rifle. If it had the correct earlier zf41 I would have been bidding myself. I think you did well and at a good price point.
Congrats and good luck.

The rear sight numbered to the rifle is a huge plus IMO. The stock cut is not what I am used to but no way can they all be exactly the same. I do have an AR ZF41 stock but it is RC so it may be of little help. The stock cut out on this RC is like the norm and the butt plate is flat. A dual code may change the rules a bit?? It is likely fine/good rifle and a rare find but ZF41s are about as hard to authenticate as some of the hard to find snipers IMO.

 

[Absolut]

Hey Antonio, checked both of my AR42 ZF41. While one has at least one 26 proof (it might have a second one also, but it is rust pitted in this area), the one pictured here does not have one. Also the BCD/AR rifle pictured here does not have a 26 proof, at least when speaking of both out of the woodline. Also checked my DUV coded ZF41, this rifle has two 214 proofs on the right side of the rear sight.

 

[tonino7]

Hey Antonio, checked both of my AR42 ZF41. While one has at least one 26 proof (it might have a second one also, but it is rust pitted in this area), the one pictured here does not have one. Also the BCD/AR rifle pictured here does not have a 26 proof, at least when speaking of both out of the woodline. Also checked my DUV coded ZF41, this rifle has two 214 proofs on the right side of the rear sight.

I suppose that the presence or not of the two WaA may depends from the date of production : I read that in 1942 the K98 producers begun to semplify the production and one of the things they made was the reduction of the number of quality control ( less controls , less WaA , correct?). Probably this process was not immediate but progressive and for sure in different moments for every maker . So I suppose that at the beginning of the 1942 the Mauser Borsigwald printed the two WaA26 on his K98s , then they stopped at some point of the year. In 1943 these markings are missing (or at least they are missing on my ar43).