BARREL ID HELP, PLEASE

The barrel is subcontract supplied by BSW/Gustloff Suhl, not rare in 1941, though the contract extended1940-1942, 41 most common. Adds a cool factor but JPS is a heavy contract user of components, - for instance CGH took BSW place with barrels after BSW and subcontracting was the norm for JPS production.
 
Something struck me as familiar, so I looked in Vol. IIa and sure enough I found it at the bottom of page 341. The very bottom photo is a panorama of the exact barrel code minus the a trailing the 158.

OP rifle dfb 158 a 40 H dfb e/4 e/4
book pic dfb 158 40 H dfb e/4 e/4

Another thing I noticed is the book states "In the i block of 1941, the Gustloff supplied barrels will have the "dfb" code, the replacement for the old numeric "936" code. Barrels will have e/4 inspections..."

There is no reference to the rifle that barrel code in the book was from so I wondered if the OP piece above is just a really early example.
 
Loewe said:
The barrel is subcontract supplied by BSW/Gustloff Suhl, not rare in 1941, though the contract extended1940-1942, 41 most common. Adds a cool factor but JPS is a heavy contract user of components, - for instance CGH took BSW place with barrels after BSW and subcontracting was the norm for JPS production.
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Thanks for the information and fast response. I appreciate the help.
 
heavy_mech said:
Something struck me as familiar, so I looked in Vol. IIa and sure enough I found it at the bottom of page 341. The very bottom photo is a panorama of the exact barrel code minus the a trailing the 158.

OP rifle dfb 158 a 40 H dfb e/4 e/4
book pic dfb 158 40 H dfb e/4 e/4

Another thing I noticed is the book states "In the i block of 1941, the Gustloff supplied barrels will have the "dfb" code, the replacement for the old numeric "936" code. Barrels will have e/4 inspections..."

There is no reference to the rifle that barrel code in the book was from so I wondered if the OP piece above is just a really early example.
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Thanks for information and citation, I really appreciate the help. I can try and upload a panoramic photo; but I’m afraid the image data may be too large.
 
heavy_mech said:
Something struck me as familiar, so I looked in Vol. IIa and sure enough I found it at the bottom of page 341. The very bottom photo is a panorama of the exact barrel code minus the a trailing the 158.

OP rifle dfb 158 a 40 H dfb e/4 e/4
book pic dfb 158 40 H dfb e/4 e/4

Another thing I noticed is the book states "In the i block of 1941, the Gustloff supplied barrels will have the "dfb" code, the replacement for the old numeric "936" code. Barrels will have e/4 inspections..."

There is no reference to the rifle that barrel code in the book was from so I wondered if the OP piece above is just a really early example.
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Unfortunately I don't know the serial number of the K98k rifle. On page 341 directly above is the barrel code "936 144 40 D 936 e/4 (3)", it's from my "147 1940" Sn. 9602v.

You can add another, a late one from this lot number:
"ce 41" Sn. 2389i "dfb 158 40 H dfb e/4 (3)"

The first Gustloff barrels with "dfb" code I know, are around the "d" block in 1941. Up to the "i" block the code "936" and the new code "dfb" are intermingled in the assembly. Personally I have not seen any code "936" after the "i" block.
 
Stephan98k said:
You can add another, a late one from this lot number:
"ce 41" Sn. 2389i "dfb 158 40 H dfb e/4 (3)"
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Maybe this is the piece featured in the book as it would explain the comment about 'dfb starting in the i block'. Or a 2nd example with the exact barrel code.
 
1940 147 2748 p / * 86 e/4 x3
1940 147 9673 s / * 141 40 D 936* (possible BSW barrel)
1940 147 9861 s / * e/4 x3 (rc)
1940 147 9253 t / 936 1*
1940 147 9602 v / 936 144 40 D 936 e/4 x3
1940 147 9860 v / *(93)6 e/4 x3 (original barrel)

1941 ce 3600 a / * 40 D 936 e/4 x3 (rc – original barrel)
1941 ce 13 b / 936 141 40 D 936 e/4 x3
1941 ce 444 b / 936 145 40 D *
1941 ce 1053 d / *fb e/4 x3 (rc)
1941 ce 5152 d / * (158) 40 H dfb e/4 x3
1941 ce 5882 d / AA 40 dfb e/4 * (rc)
1941 ce 8920 d / 936 132 40 D 936 e/4 x3
1941 ce 9781 d / 936 182 40 D 936 e/4 x3
1941 ce 6414 e / *(1)34 40 D 936 e/4 x2 * (rc)
1941 ce 8703 e / 936 *2 38 R 936 e/4 x3
1941 ce 7975 f / *8 R 936 e/4 x3
1941 ce 9303 f / * R 936 e/4 x3
1941 ce 545 g / 936 227 38 R 936 e/4 x3 (KCNJuly90)
1941 ce 4179 g / *(936) 228 38 R 936 e/4 *
1941 ce 5707 g – * CR 40 dfb e/WaA4
1941 ce 6988 g / dfb BZ 40 dfb
1941 ce 7138 g / 936 24*
1941 ce 2561 h / *936 e/WaA4 x3
1941 ce 5330 h / * R 936 e/4 x3
1941 ce 6035 h / * 936 e/4 x3 (DD 120609)
1941 ce 7022 h / 38 R 936 e/4 x3
1941 ce 7961 h / dfb * e/4
1941 ce 408 i / *936 2* 936 (rc)
1941 ce 2389 i / dfb 158 40 H dfb e/4 x3
1941 ce 3931 l / dfb ct 40 e/4 x3 (report)
1941 ce 7782 l / dfb CT 40 dfb (report)
1941 ce 790 m / *9 38 R 936 e/4 x2 * (rc)
1941 ce 1853 n / * e/4 x3
1941 ce 2270 n / * e/4 x3 (936 suspected- original barrel)
1941 ce 9372 r / *dfb FV 41 dfb e/4 x3
1941 ce 5578 s / *dfb FV 41 dfb e/4 x3
1941 ce 1309 t / * 41 dfb e/4 x3
1941 ce 2861 t / dfb F *
1941 ce 3628 t / *W 41 dfb e/WaA4 x3
1941 ce 3959 t / *V 41 dfb e/WaA4 x3
1941 ce 8978 t / dfb HB 41 dfb e/4 x3
1941 ce 986 v / *e/4 x3 *
1941 ce 1499 v / *dfb CU 40 dfb * (date removed, believed 1941)

1942 ce 311 / dfb FW 41 dfb e/4 x3
1942 ce 7598 / W 41 dfb FW dfb e/4 x3 (believed ce/42 barrel only)
1942 ce 3929 b / dfb EV 41 dfb e/4 x3
1942 ce 4234 d / *(6) e/4 x3 (936 suspected)
1942 ce 72 o / 38 R 30 e/4 x2
 
For what's worth, the above, not up to date but current to 7-8 years ago, -since then only plundering has occurred, -in collecting mode these days, so not lost but so behind it is pointless to collate and integrate further...
 
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