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Are rebarreled Yugo-captures the same as Yugo M-98 barrels?

In an attempt to "rebuild" a Yugo-captured German K98, I found a donor, sporterized-K98 with a corroded barrel that I want to replace for my Yugo-cut German rifle body. From what I've been told, the Yugoslavs' cut down the stocks and re-barreled the rifles they captured from Germany. My question is: are the barrels they put in German captures the same as their Yugo M-98 barrels, the M-48 barrels, or are they their own thing entirely?
 
Not all are cut down. If I remember correctly, the ones cut down were rebarreled with M48 barrels, the others with K98k barrels. Evidently they had a ton of M48 barrels on hand and it was cheaper to use them on some K98k reworks. (M48 barrel is 597mm K98k is 600mm).
 
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The reason I ask is because I've been told a regular K98k barrel would look something like the first image in the type of stock I have (second image), which measures at 37.5" exactly from tip to butt (measured horizontal and parallel to the barrel). I don't have the barrel or barrel band for the gun on hand to verify that, however. At least, not right now.

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I’m pretty sure the difference was more than 3mm/.118”.
At the risk of disagreeing with a published author & reknowned expert in this field, the M48 ‘short’ barrels were not 597mm as described above, but 590mm. At least 1 reference I checked quickly (wikipedia) showed that same info, but if one compares the 2 lengths as stated in inches, 23.62” for a K98k barrel & 23.25” for an M48 barrel, the difference is .370” or 9.4mm not .118” or 3mm. An eight of an inch is certainly visible to the naked eye, but WAY less obvious than 3/8”.
I’m confident of this because though I don’t own an M48 to check, the 1st photo above that ErnieBigGuns posted is mine, showing how my dot 44 shooter looked in a shortened yugo stock that I fit a standard length handguard to. That’s my Tipton Best gun vise with a ‘Realistic Snap Caps LLC’ brand snap cap in the background.

As to your question Ernie, is the stock you pictured shortened or not, I can’t tell for sure, but after my hardware store run, I’ll remeasure some stocks I have to compare & report.
 
I’m pretty sure the difference was more than 3mm/.118”.
At the risk of disagreeing with a published author & reknowned expert in this field, the M48 ‘short’ barrels were not 597mm as described above, but 590mm. At least 1 reference I checked quickly (wikipedia) showed that same info, but if one compares the 2 lengths as stated in inches, 23.62” for a K98k barrel & 23.25” for an M48 barrel, the difference is .370” or 9.4mm not .118” or 3mm. An eight of an inch is certainly visible to the naked eye, but WAY less obvious than 3/8”.
I’m confident of this because though I don’t own an M48 to check, the 1st photo above that ErnieBigGuns posted is mine, showing how my dot 44 shooter looked in a shortened yugo stock that I fit a standard length handguard to. That’s my Tipton Best gun vise with a ‘Realistic Snap Caps LLC’ brand snap cap in the background.

As to your question Ernie, is the stock you pictured shortened or not, I can’t tell for sure, but after my hardware store run, I’ll remeasure some stocks I have to compare & report.
I do not know for certain that it is a shortened stock, however, in my separate thread "Need Help Identifying Wood Stock" (the one I got your picture from), you and a few others came to the conclusion that it was a Yugo-captured German K98k stock that had been shortened. Google isn't very helpful with measurements for just the stock, so I don't know for certain it's shortened just by measurements. The only other suggestion I can see that my stock has been shortened is the fact that there are two holes in the fore end of the rifle for the bayonet lug, suggesting there was a second hole drilled to fit the barrel band when it was shortened.

Slightly off-topic but I just thought of it: Are the M48 and K98k bayonet lugs the same? If so, which would fit on this rifle body?
 
using my meter stick (@ 39.37” perfect for this job) I got 37-7/8” on two of 3 stocks, 37-13/16” on a third, measuring in the barrel channel, no butt plates or bayonet lug in place, meter stick 90 degrees to the floor, stock vertical, contacting floor @ area of upper bp screw. I call the end of the plate & butt the heel, but I’ve seen others call the number side (keel side) the heel.

It’s not a large difference, but significant, I’d say your stock has been shortened. If you have, or could borrow, a ‘known good’ K98k hand guard, lay the hand guard on top of the stock where it would normally sit. Often you can see where the retaining lip of the rear sight base was located, by contact marks or the color of the wood where the edge was coveted by the hand guard when in place. A standard length hand guard will either meet the sling band shoulder of the stock, or overhang it by the same ~3/8”/9mm that the barrel shoulder sticks out of the front band. In the particular case, the front band dimensions are the same, as is the way it fits & functions with the sling band & band spring. They just cut the shoulders back & re-used the hardware. “I believe” (but may be wrong) that yugo made bayo lugs are close enough dimensionally to be considered interchangeable, but may have subtle features different.
Notice how your stock has 2 holes under the bayo lug? That’s exactly how much yours was shortened, they cut the shoulder back & drilled a new pin hole.

So- what to do? if for a shooter, buy a surplus Israeli hg from numrich, cut it back to match the stock, assemble & shoot! If for a collector piece, then use as a placeholder while you look for something better, knowing what it is.
 
The rifle body was given to me as "junk", and it's the only part of a K98k that I own (currently). I plan to make a shooter out of a bunch of parts, and bought the action a while ago to use in it (it should be here in a couple of days). I don't know anyone who would even have a K98 handguard. And if the stock has been shortened from just where the bayonet lug rests, I don't believe they would have touched the handguard.
 
Sorry if you don’t believe it, but it is simply true. I think if you had all the parts in your hands, you’d be able to see the relationships between the parts & how it came to be that they used shortened hand guards. It has everything to with where the steps in barrel diameter fall, & how everything fits together. If I can find the pic that goes with the one of mine you shared, I’ll post it, perhaps that will make things clearer for you. I’m not making this up, plenty of other guys have run into this with shortened yugo stocks.
 
Hopefully these will help you visualize what's going on. It doesn't directly answer the question in the thread title, however. When you receive your barreled action & place it in the stock you have, it may become clearer. The front band, band spring, bayo lug & rear band are all standard German dimensioned parts, but because the barrel is ~3/8" shorter, that 1st (or last depending on how you view it) step in the barrel diameter is 'pushed back' by the same amount on the Yugo barrel, towards the receiver. In order to reuse the standard German length band spring, the sling band shoulder is cut back on the stock and hand guard.
Why were the Yugo barrels shorter in the 1st place? I've read that it had to do with fitting their own style bayonets, but I've also read that isn't true. It could be as simple as having 1200mm bars of steel to cut 600mm barrels from, & they may have made them 590mm in order to have enough stock to 'clean up' 2 barrels per forged bar. That's my personal WAG, based on working 30 years in a large machine shop, but nothing else. I'd love to learn the 'real' reason.
 

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It's simply not what I would've guessed.
Yep they milled the handguard to push the cutout for the front retaining band further back. Didn’t just lop a little off under the bayonet lug unfortunately (that would be a much easier fix. There are yugo full length k98 stock out there as well, not all were shortened to m48 specs. I have two of them I’m using as placeholders right now till I can swap the rifles into German stocks.
 
Another way you can tell if it’s a cut down stock. A bayonet will not mount on the rifle. It will slide on but won’t lock up due to the bayonet hitting that last barrel step. Ask me how I know. Lol
 
using my meter stick (@ 39.37” perfect for this job) I got 37-7/8” on two of 3 stocks, 37-13/16” on a third, measuring in the barrel channel, no butt plates or bayonet lug in place, meter stick 90 degrees to the floor, stock vertical, contacting floor @ area of upper bp screw. I call the end of the plate & butt the heel, but I’ve seen others call the number side (keel side) the heel.

It’s not a large difference, but significant, I’d say your stock has been shortened. If you have, or could borrow, a ‘known good’ K98k hand guard, lay the hand guard on top of the stock where it would normally sit. Often you can see where the retaining lip of the rear sight base was located, by contact marks or the color of the wood where the edge was coveted by the hand guard when in place. A standard length hand guard will either meet the sling band shoulder of the stock, or overhang it by the same ~3/8”/9mm that the barrel shoulder sticks out of the front band. In the particular case, the front band dimensions are the same, as is the way it fits & functions with the sling band & band spring. They just cut the shoulders back & re-used the hardware. “I believe” (but may be wrong) that yugo made bayo lugs are close enough dimensionally to be considered interchangeable, but may have subtle features different.
Notice how your stock has 2 holes under the bayo lug? That’s exactly how much yours was shortened, they cut the shoulder back & drilled a new pin hole.

So- what to do? if for a shooter, buy a surplus Israeli hg from numrich, cut it back to match the stock, assemble & shoot! If for a collector piece, then use as a placeholder while you look for something better, knowing what it is.
FWIW, my German and Yugo bayos are interchangeable with both style of rifles.. interchangeable with my Turk Mausers as well. I guess, for the most part, Mausers is Mausers, and I likes me some Mausers- a "disease" I caught very young from playing with my Dad's bringback😊
 

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