Ammo Recommendations

[Muncher 1953]

Here are pics defending my statement and previous post. Right from the ppu website itself.

Pics:

https://imgur.com/a/xJOVvvr

The hotter stuff is 750m/s or 2460 ft/s
Meanwhile the anemic stuff is around 660m/s or 2180ft/s

The hotter stuff is def better and more accurate. I guess a lot of people don’t realize they have two different lines according to this forum lol

I was afraid you’d take my question as a challenge, not meant that way. unfortunately your phone pix are unreadable, I only asked you for their product number, so the information can be verified & shared among the community. I also visited the PPU website, and did not find the image you posted. how about a link, rather than a photo?

 

[Taybyes]

I was afraid you’d take my question as a challenge, not meant that way. unfortunately your phone pix are unreadable, I only asked you for their product number, so the information can be verified & shared among the community. I also visited the PPU website, and did not find the image you posted. how about a link, rather than a photo?

If you had imgur it would open up for you. But here are the links to the “hotter” ppu 8x57js ammo:

Prvi Partizan Ammunition

www.prvipartizan.com

Prvi Partizan Ammunition

www.prvipartizan.com

Anemic ppu 8mm Mauser ammo:

Prvi Partizan Ammunition

www.prvipartizan.com

 

[Muncher 1953]

If you had imgur it would open up for you. But here are the links to the “hotter” ppu 8x57js ammo:

Prvi Partizan Ammunition

www.prvipartizan.com

Prvi Partizan Ammunition

www.prvipartizan.com

Anemic ppu 8mm Mauser ammo:

Prvi Partizan Ammunition

www.prvipartizan.com

I don’t have a 5G phone either. I got those pages to open this AM. However, what I noticed about the web pages you posted the links to, is that the date of those 3 pages is - 2013 -.

These 2021 dated pages indicate what is imported to the US in 2023.

8mm MAUSER | PPU USA Ammunition

HANDGUN AMMUNITION · RIFLE AMMUNITION · RELOADING COMPONENTS

ppu-usa.com

2024 | PPU USA Ammunition

HANDGUN AMMUNITION · RIFLE AMMUNITION · RELOADING COMPONENTS

ppu-usa.com

8mm MAUSER MATCH | PPU USA Ammunition

HANDGUN AMMUNITION · RIFLE AMMUNITION · RELOADING COMPONENTS

ppu-usa.com

I asked about the ppu cat# because that’s how US distributors buy ammo from TRZ Trading, PPU’s US master distributor, and might be a tool to find some of the higher loading somewhere here in the States. Do you have any of the heavier loaded product, if yes, might you post a pic of the carton?

 

[Taybyes]

I don’t have a 5G phone either. I got those pages to open this AM. However, what I noticed about the web pages you posted the links to, is that the date of those 3 pages is - 2013 -.

These 2021 dated pages indicate what is imported to the US in 2023.

8mm MAUSER | PPU USA Ammunition

HANDGUN AMMUNITION · RIFLE AMMUNITION · RELOADING COMPONENTS

ppu-usa.com

2024 | PPU USA Ammunition

HANDGUN AMMUNITION · RIFLE AMMUNITION · RELOADING COMPONENTS

ppu-usa.com

8mm MAUSER MATCH | PPU USA Ammunition

HANDGUN AMMUNITION · RIFLE AMMUNITION · RELOADING COMPONENTS

ppu-usa.com

I asked about the ppu cat# because that’s how US distributors buy ammo from TRZ Trading, PPU’s US master distributor, and might be a tool to find some of the higher loading somewhere here in the States. Do you have any of the heavier loaded product, if yes, might you post a pic of the carton?

Yes I do have it. I have both variants of the ammo. Th websites I use is PPUs main website in Siberia not the USA one.
I can upload a pic of the “hotter ammo if you’d like. Also where do I find the cat#?

 

[heavy_mech]

Mine is also the older ammo with the darker blue and white stripes on the box. That new stuff is quite slow at under 2200 fps.

 

[Muncher 1953]

Yes I do have it. I have both variants of the ammo. Th websites I use is PPUs main website in Siberia not the USA one.
I can upload a pic of the “hotter ammo if you’d like. Also where do I find the cat#?

all of my comments are specific to US domestic product, as that’s where I shop.

I looked in my ammo stash to see if I had any ppu boxes, nope, I’ve reboxed what I have to save space. PPU/nny has changed their packaging at least twice in the last 15 years, different color boxes & changed from paper separators to plastic like Winchester or Remington branded rifle cartridges.
I visited the Privi Partisan website, sure enough, it shows the load you posted, but no cat#s on any product on the site.

the copyright date is 2013, which makes me suspect that the info may not be current, from experience with other sites.

i doubt the headstamps are different, but if they are, a pic would show us what to look for.(or any obvious difference in the cartridges)
ditto with the 20 rd box, it may have a different logo, or product line name than the TRZ Trading (PPU-USA) website shows.

do you recall where & how long ago you found the “good stuff”?

a little arithmatic: @ 2460 fps, the “hot stuff” has a muzzle velocity 11.4% faster than the “weak stuff” @ 2180 fps.
thats not much greater than the standard deviation on my reloads ~ 190 fps.

I haven’t clocked any new-in-box ppu 7.92 ammo (meaning to be inclusive) or 1940s German steel cased ammo, but wartime ammo has noticeably greater recoil & smaller groups. I’d shop for the faster ppu if we can see how to identify it. I generally go for price, then what’s actually available, in terms of bullet choice. It doesn’t matter punching holes which bullet it is.(to me)
I wrote to TRZTrading & asked if they offered a different loading, we’ll see what they say.

 

[Taybyes]

all of my comments are specific to US domestic product, as that’s where I shop.

I looked in my ammo stash to see if I had any ppu boxes, nope, I’ve reboxed what I have to save space. PPU/nny has changed their packaging at least twice in the last 15 years, different color boxes & changed from paper separators to plastic like Winchester or Remington branded rifle cartridges.
I visited the Privi Partisan website, sure enough, it shows the load you posted, but no cat#s on any product on the site.

the copyright date is 2013, which makes me suspect that the info may not be current, from experience with other sites.

i doubt the headstamps are different, but if they are, a pic would show us what to look for.(or any obvious difference in the cartridges)
ditto with the 20 rd box, it may have a different logo, or product line name than the TRZ Trading (PPU-USA) website shows.

do you recall where & how long ago you found the “good stuff”?

a little arithmatic: @ 2460 fps, the “hot stuff” has a muzzle velocity 11.4% faster than the “weak stuff” @ 2180 fps.
thats not much greater than the standard deviation on my reloads ~ 190 fps.

I haven’t clocked any new-in-box ppu 7.92 ammo (meaning to be inclusive) or 1940s German steel cased ammo, but wartime ammo has noticeably greater recoil & smaller groups. I’d shop for the faster ppu if we can see how to identify it. I generally go for price, then what’s actually available, in terms of bullet choice. It doesn’t matter punching holes which bullet it is.(to me)
I wrote to TRZTrading & asked if they offered a different loading, we’ll see what they say.

For sure I have both of these ammo at home and will check them today when I am home. There is noticeable difference in accuracy between the two ammo I found in my k98. The hotter stuff is more accurate and more POA.
I know the anemic stuff just says 8mm Mauser on the box meanwhile the hotter stuff says 8x57. That’s how I identify with it. I will compare the two bullets/ casings.
I buy the hotter stuff anytime I find it. Comes in both fmj and sp too.

 

[Taybyes]

all of my comments are specific to US domestic product, as that’s where I shop.

I looked in my ammo stash to see if I had any ppu boxes, nope, I’ve reboxed what I have to save space. PPU/nny has changed their packaging at least twice in the last 15 years, different color boxes & changed from paper separators to plastic like Winchester or Remington branded rifle cartridges.
I visited the Privi Partisan website, sure enough, it shows the load you posted, but no cat#s on any product on the site.

the copyright date is 2013, which makes me suspect that the info may not be current, from experience with other sites.

i doubt the headstamps are different, but if they are, a pic would show us what to look for.(or any obvious difference in the cartridges)
ditto with the 20 rd box, it may have a different logo, or product line name than the TRZ Trading (PPU-USA) website shows.

do you recall where & how long ago you found the “good stuff”?

a little arithmatic: @ 2460 fps, the “hot stuff” has a muzzle velocity 11.4% faster than the “weak stuff” @ 2180 fps.
thats not much greater than the standard deviation on my reloads ~ 190 fps.

I haven’t clocked any new-in-box ppu 7.92 ammo (meaning to be inclusive) or 1940s German steel cased ammo, but wartime ammo has noticeably greater recoil & smaller groups. I’d shop for the faster ppu if we can see how to identify it. I generally go for price, then what’s actually available, in terms of bullet choice. It doesn’t matter punching holes which bullet it is.(to me)
I wrote to TRZTrading & asked if they offered a different loading, we’ll see what they say.

Also I am in Canada and I have a local store to me that imports the “good stuff” periodically. Maybe they are ordering it directly from PPU? Either way i love it and hunt with it. Very accurate and can get 2moa with it at 100 yards. I will upload pictures of the boxes of both ammo and the casings and headstamps. Download imgur if you can to see it more clearly.

 

[Muncher 1953]

Also I am in Canada and I have a local store to me that imports the “good stuff” periodically. Maybe they are ordering it directly from PPU? Either way i love it and hunt with it. Very accurate and can get 2moa with it at 100 yards. I will upload pictures of the boxes of both ammo and the casings and headstamps. Download imgur if you can to see it more clearly.

“Oh, Canada!”
That may be the key, though TRZ may be the importer for the US, it’s probably a Canada- based business there, who then supplies the ‘local guns stores’ in Canada. I would be surprised to find that this is not the case.

in the pic attached, the inside flap of the master carton (w/ cat#) indicates a manufacture date of Mar 29, 2018, three years before I received it, so supply chain moves slowly, IMO. At left is a repack box designed for 20 rounds of .30-06, but will hold 25 rds 8x57 IS, & 40% of the space of regular 20 round box. I saved the plastic holders for reloading trays & recycled the cartons. The repack boxes fit more ammo into standard US military ammo cans than retail packaging.

I just noticed the 'article number' below the cat# on the carton flap, 'art. nr. A-459' for mine, the 'art. nr.' is shown on the Privi Partisan website, equivalent to cat#? From the Privi website, 'your' ammo is art nr A-321, A-128 or A-213, depending on wt of bullet..........

Prvi Partizan Ammunition

www.prvipartizan.com

note: above link not working right but will get you there.