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45 CRS in the post-economics, post-factual world

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conibear

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I stumbled into this bayonet, Andy, Slash, others all helped me learn what it is. I stalked the internet for the past year like Ursula von der Leyen stalking economies to destroy, looking for updates, seeing if one sold for $30k yet so I can buy a SIG PE57 or a Soviet capture K98.

I digress, anybody heard anything about this bayonet recently? Is the insanity of K98 pricing applicable on this bayonet? Thanks for any insight gentlemen...
 

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I dont known its 5xxx piece, when yes where it ended??, it was on Ebay sold or otherway??, but already a normal S84/98 going very high prices not a 45crs (note discussion about KM piece over 1xxx USD), on this piece not sharpened or otherway damaged but wout proper scabbard. So the price would be insane for a normal collector.
 
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AndyB said:
I dont known its 5xxx piece, when yes where it ended??, it was on Ebay sold or otherway??, but already a normal S84/98 going very high prices not a 45crs (note discussion about KM piece over 1xxx USD), on this piece not sharpened or otherway damaged but wout proper scabbard. So the price would be insane for a normal collector.
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5170 Andy. Thanks as always, I just wondered what this thing is worth after owning it for almost 3 years now. We live in insane times; economically and everything else.
 

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Its a nice piece, even the grips were probably removed, and is possible there was a washer under screw head as the screw is too long and would damage hand of user. Condition is very nice. the price could be obtained per adding on any auction bid, in case for value research. I dont known what for a 45crs wout scabbard, when the old 44cof scabbard is mixed with? a single bayonet is harder to find and saled. in case of 45crs could be made exception.
 
For similar extra piece You should get any period german late war frog, is not extra valuable to 50/60 USD.
 
Hi,

Well, I guess someone has to be the devil's advocate but I'm not too keen with this bayonet that shares many details of a Behorden Hörster piece. The crude machining and the wrong typo on this alleged Weyersberg bayonet really make me raise my eyebrows. Maybe I'm wrong, if Slash comes by he might be of help and if I'm mistaken, I appologize in advance. Cheers!
 
4761 has identical mashining on crosspiece, should be compared but i believe that piece is ok. I compared it too with the white painted 4035 same profile on cg. Anyway each could be made mistakes.
 
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4761 has identical mashining on crosspiece, should be compared but i believe that piece is ok. I compared it too with the white painted 4035 same profile on cg. Anyway each could be made mistakes.
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I don't agree with the white painted example having the same typo. But as you say there might be different variants although I would not want this one in my collection to be honest.

Top left, a good one, sharpened that sold in auctions.

Top right, the painted one you refer to. Both have the same typo and machining style.

Bottom right fake sold on fjm a while back

Bottom left, the alleged original presented in the post.

Just my opinion.
 

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Scharf said:
I don't agree with the white painted example having the same typo. But as you say there might be different variants although I would not want this one in my collection to be honest.

Top left, a good one, sharpened that sold in auctions.

Top right, the painted one you refer to. Both have the same typo and machining style.

Bottom right fake sold on fjm a while back

Bottom left, the alleged original presented in the post.

Just my opinion.
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it's unreal how fraudulent everything is, I got one RC K98, I love it, decided I'd like another, and two weeks into looking for another one I just gave up and said "eff it." If you're really into collecting it's got to be exhausting wading through the lies and scam artists.

So my collection stays at two pieces; this bayonet with an unmatched scabbard and a single rifle with unmatched parts.

Thanks for the input...
 
Simpletons and a-holes are common place in the realm of militaria collecting. That being said, it is of course my opinion of this bayonet and in no way an unshakable truth. That's to say if you like what you have, I can live with that, I just don't consider what I see to be an untouched piece from the war! Cheers!
 
As @conibear may recall we have had extensive discussion regarding this bayonet. Although I have not personally examined the piece I was provided with numerous high resolution pics to include several with the bayonet broken-down into its component parts (retention bolt & grips removed, etc).

The bayonet is 100% original pre-May 1945 production.
 
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As @conibear may recall we have had extensive discussion regarding this bayonet. Although I have not personally examined the piece I was provided with numerous high resolution pics to include several with the bayonet broken-down into its component parts (retention bolt & grips removed, etc).

The bayonet is 100% original pre-May 1945 production.
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Slash said:
As @conibear may recall we have had extensive discussion regarding this bayonet. Although I have not personally examined the piece I was provided with numerous high resolution pics to include several with the bayonet broken-down into its component parts (retention bolt & grips removed, etc).

The bayonet is 100% original pre-May 1945 production.
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thanks as always Slash, I have a boyonet collection of one and started this post just to see what (if anything) has changed over the last three years in this segment - it's oiled and resting comfortably at 7,200' in Wyoming
 
You came here to see how much it was worth? I doubt it’ll be any more valuable than it is now. In all likelihood it’s coming down a bit as the market is cooling. And its code is all it has going for it really.
 
CanadianAR said:
You came here to see how much it was worth? I doubt it’ll be any more valuable than it is now. In all likelihood it’s coming down a bit as the market is cooling. And its code is all it has going for it really.
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Thanks for the comment and yes I came here to see what it was worth in USD - it has value for me that's not monetary.
 
conibear said:
Thanks for the comment and yes I came here to see what it was worth in USD - it has value for me that's not monetary.
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My opinion, with the desirability and rarity of the crs45 bayonets, extremely high end fakes will be made and sprinkled into the market. This will lower the value over time, but eventually certain blades will rise to the top and become valuable again. It happened with SS helmets, happens with other things - 98k's have been touched by it as well. You'll have a value whenever you decide to sell it.

Fakes destroyed the Civil War market sometime back from what ive heard.
 
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