44 byf l block

[runner]

I received this rifle sans stock, I found a laminate stock without sn’s and a single E/135 stock proof on the right side of the stock (Faint, but it is there) I believe this is correct for this rifle, unfortunately the stock has a postwar number added to the left side of the stock, Yugoslavia, I believe.

Summary

Receiver top: e/135, byf, 44
Receiver RR: e/135 x2
Receiver LS: fp, 77806 l
barrel code: byf shield, 44 D 857 e/135
barrel LS: fp
bolt body: 7806 l
bolt shroud: 7806
cocking piece: 06
safety: blank
firing pin: blank
triggerguard: stamped, e/135 x2, no provision for locking screws
floorplate: stamped: byf, e/135
follower: stamped, lxr
Stock: laminate, no SN*, barrel channel is blank. *post war 575 on left side of buttstock
Handguard: laminate, blank, no SN
Upper barrel band: speed milled, blank, no SN
Lower barrel band: stamped, blank, no SN
band spring: stamped, blank

Other than the postwar number on the stock, is this the correct stock for this rifle?
Are the rest of the parts correct?

Finally moving into the new, smaller house and have to downsize the collection. If this one goes I don’t want to misrepresent it.
I appreciate any comments and apologize for the poor pictures (inside with a phone) if needed I can get outside pictures tomorrow.

 

[racerlee]

Have you looked for the date? I see some numbers in the barrel channel, but I'm not sure what they are, hard to see in the photo. Sometimes the date is stamped under the buttplate. To me this is a Russian used stock since the post war numbers are horizontal. Definitely an Mauser Oberndorf stock with the WaA 135 stamp. Hopefully someone else will chime in and help out.

 

[runner]

Nothing under the buttplate, although the buttplate retains it red primer on the inside.
I don’t see any evidence of a SN in the barrel channel, even using a magnifier. If I tear it back down I will try to get a better picture tomorrow.

 

[Guillaume d'Orange]

I received this rifle sans stock, I found a laminate stock without sn’s and a single E/135 stock proof on the right side of the stock (Faint, but it is there) I believe this is correct for this rifle, unfortunately the stock has a postwar number added to the left side of the stock, Yugoslavia, I believe.

Summary

Receiver top: e/135, byf, 44
Receiver RR: e/135 x2
Receiver LS: fp, 77806 l
barrel code: byf shield, 44 D 857 e/135
barrel LS: fp
bolt body: 7806 l
bolt shroud: 7806
cocking piece: 06
safety: blank
firing pin: blank
triggerguard: stamped, e/135 x2, no provision for locking screws
floorplate: stamped: byf, e/135
follower: stamped, lxr
Stock: laminate, no SN*, barrel channel is blank. *post war 575 on left side of buttstock
Handguard: laminate, blank, no SN
Upper barrel band: speed milled, blank, no SN
Lower barrel band: stamped, blank, no SN
band spring: stamped, blank

Other than the postwar number on the stock, is this the correct stock for this rifle?
Are the rest of the parts correct?

Finally moving into the new, smaller house and have to downsize the collection. If this one goes I don’t want to misrepresent it.
I appreciate any comments and apologize for the poor pictures (inside with a phone) if needed I can get outside pictures tomorrow.

Thanks for the data ! Do you please have a picture of the barrel code ? I just want to be sure it is 857, not 957.

 

[CanadianAR]

Likely would be a Kriegsmodell stock, with that late SN.

Everything else sounds right

 

[jsz]

Probably not in my opinion Here’s mine 10k later.

 

[SVW1945]

Probably not in my opinion Here’s mine 10k later.

Is it a Kreigs ?

 

[jsz]

No

 

[Cav Trooper 19D]

Probably not in my opinion Here’s mine 10k later.

So, the two piece recoil lug wasn't a hard and fast rule at Mauser even at the late 1944 L block I see.

 

[CanadianAR]

No

I think a regular stock that late is getting less common. Not that it can’t happen but

No

i guess it’s more fair to say could go either way. But I think after this there’s more KM than not but still mixed as per the data

 

[runner]

That was my opinion as well from researching known examples and the books. Semi Kreigs are common but not exclusive in the “l” block, full stocks were still used enough that they would not be seen as an anomaly. I have a semi-kreigs in walnut (bayonet lug and cleaning rod , but no takedown disc, also unserialized. But it lacks an e/135 stock final inspection, so I thought it less correct.

I appreciate the input, as the metal is correct in this byf, I want to complete it with appropriate wood.

 

[Turbo Archie]

byf44's including "L" blocks are fairly common, I have a few, yet nice semi KM mauser stocks are one of the hardest stocks to find IMO.

 

[jbmauser]

Semi-km stocks are not common. In this range the most likely stock would have been a km.

 

[runner]

Thanks for the data ! Do you please have a picture of the barrel code ? I just want to be sure it is 857, not 957.

Here you go, Sorry for the long delay.

 

[runner]

Have you looked for the date? I see some numbers in the barrel channel, but I'm not sure what they are, hard to see in the photo. Sometimes the date is stamped under the buttplate. To me this is a Russian used stock since the post war numbers are horizontal. Definitely an Mauser Oberndorf stock with the WaA 135 stamp. Hopefully someone else will chime in and help out.

When I disassembled to check the barrel code, I checked the hg and barrel channel for sn using a good light, I don’t think either were ever numbered

 

[runner]

Semi-km stocks are not common. In this range the most likely stock would have been a km.

“Kriegsmodell” page 130 lists serial numbers 77153 l and 85995 l as having standard stocks. These rifles bracket my sn 77806 l. Standand stocks and Kriegsmodell stocks both seem to be well represented in the “l” block.

 

[runner]

Photo of the E/135 stock marking

 

[Guillaume d'Orange]

Here you go, Sorry for the long delay.

Great, thank you. That’s D857 indeed.