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1938 - Oberndorf "Battle Field Pickup" Help

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Kalash_Glo

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Hi folks, I think that I may have gotten burned w a recent purchase on Gunbroker (lesson learned and still ongoing). Anyway, I need help determining:

1. What kind stock repair work is this (appropriate for a war depot/ armory reinforcement fix)?

2. Does it appear to be all matching? I took it apart and have provided every identifying mark left on the firearm... with the exception of the firing pin. Let me know if there is anything else I can look for... most areas are pretty beat up.

3. Would it still be considered a desirable weapon w the stock in the condition it is?


Thanks
 
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Stock is not original to the gun, the repairs are post-war, and the markings on the wrist area look post-war also. The metal parts you show (I don't see the bolt) seem to match, but condition is obviously not very good. I hope you don't have too much into it.
 
RyanE said:
Stock is not original to the gun, the repairs are post-war, and the markings on the wrist area look post-war also. The metal parts you show (I don't see the bolt) seem to match, but condition is obviously not very good. I hope you don't have too much into it.
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Is the stock fake? I see that it has matching serial numbers stamped in the wrist and on the inside. Actually comparing the metal, I'm not too surprised about the repairs.
 
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As stated above, the stock isn't factory original to the rifle, that 30mm takedown disc is a dead giveaway as those weren't introduced until 1940. The triangle marking behind the trigger guard is a Yugoslavian marking if I remember correctly.
 
AN-94 said:
As stated above, the stock isn't factory original to the rifle, that 30mm takedown disc is a dead giveaway as those weren't introduced until 1940. The triangle marking behind the trigger guard is a Yugoslavian marking if I remember correctly.
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Thanks for the additional detail
 
The bolt take down disk marking of n and e/18 would be appropriate for an early Gustloff rifle, but never found originally on a '38 MO piece. Butt plate would certainly have more markings than what is shown. Is the flat side of the recoil lug marked? f per chance?
 
heavy_mech said:
The bolt take down disk marking of n and e/18 would be appropriate for an early Gustloff rifle, but never found originally on a '38 MO piece. Butt plate would certainly have more markings than what is shown. Is the flat side of the recoil lug marked? f per chance?
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What would be the appropriate takedown disc markings for an early pre-war Mauser production rifle? The recoil lug area is cracked and the cross bolt may have been replaced or something.. there are no markings on the cross bolt itself.
 
Stock is German WW2 production, however as pointed out not original to the rifle as well used, marked and postwar sanded.
 
Alright, things are starting to making sense based on what everyone is sharing. Appreciate it… I knew I was overpaying, but it was my fault for taking the risk I did and trusting the seller in the first place. Will have to just chalk this up as a loss.

Thanks again
 
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Since it is mismatched without its original wood and not that valuable, would the rifle at least appear to be safe to shoot if restocked? The barrel looks pretty good, its the exterior metal that is pitted. I'm keeping my eye out for a more period appropriate stock.
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If you're talking about that barrel? Sure, that's just a worn, pitted barrel. I've shot way worse.

This is assuming the rest of the gun is in good shape.

Is the stock damage you're talking about the split in the buttstock near the screw hole? Sorry if I've missed something more serious. If that's it it's plenty shootable and you don't need to re-stock it. You might have to repair that screw hole to get the buttplate to stay in, but that's a pretty simple repair that you could probably do yourself.
 
Cyrano4747 said:
If you're talking about that barrel? Sure, that's just a worn, pitted barrel. I've shot way worse.

This is assuming the rest of the gun is in good shape.

Is the stock damage you're talking about the split in the buttstock near the screw hole? Sorry if I've missed something more serious. If that's it it's plenty shootable and you don't need to re-stock it. You might have to repair that screw hole to get the buttplate to stay in, but that's a pretty simple repair that you could probably do yourself.
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Cool, thanks for the feedback.. and yes, the cracked buttstock area was my other concern. The working parts of the action and inside the receiver area look good.. minimal rust if any, but I'll also get a second opinion from a gunsmith at the local range before putting some rounds through it.
 
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