I am a FFL and I sell guns for people, I got this from a widow. From what I have researched 1939 was first year for 660 or Steyr-Daimler-Puch. The serial number is 902 and everything matches except the bolt. This is clearly a 1938. I just want to be sure I’m interpreting this correctly as I believe it’s very rare?
1938 660 Model G.12/34 Luftwaffe Karabiner
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waw44
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Not a k98k, but rather a Model G.12/34 Luftwaffe Karabiner I think.
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If it is that, then its rare indeed. 6700 manufactured 1938/39 only.
Mod. 29 (O) code 660 - 1939 to Luftwaffe
Just want to show you this one, not the best shape but a collector piece for shure! http://ycgg.org/steyr-code-660-or-bnz
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If it is that, then its rare indeed. 6700 manufactured 1938/39 only.
Jakeman664
Junior Member
Yes congrats to the store. 1939 is the most commonly encountered don't see the 38s very often. You'll probably be getting lots of messages here as people wake up.
waw44
Member
Now that I see the two, I agree something is off. The 1938 date is also stamped in different location (lower) in the receiver than the #308 example.
flynaked
Repo Field Gear Collector
For what it’s worth, the start up of production shows a lot of oddities on these, and inconsistencies. The same goes for looking at 39 Gustloff guns, you see a lot that were over surface ground and subsequently restamped. I had one of the earliest production 12/34’s and it showed a lot of inconsistencies, numbers stamped sideways, errors, fire proof 90* to standard etc. These also have a high percentage of both factory and depot rework that has been seen over the years, for a number of errors. A couple of the main issues appears to be bolt clearance to the stock, as well as rear band fitment.
To me this gun looks to have been restamped and the extrusion from the die was left instead of being surface ground again as you would typically see in the normal sequence of production. Again on a lot of 39 Gustloff guns the date and codes are often out of alignment, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see that here. The rest of the gun looks good to go from additional pictures, just suffering from a bit of poor storage. It’s a bolt m/m with an A block 12/34 bolt in it.
To me this gun looks to have been restamped and the extrusion from the die was left instead of being surface ground again as you would typically see in the normal sequence of production. Again on a lot of 39 Gustloff guns the date and codes are often out of alignment, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see that here. The rest of the gun looks good to go from additional pictures, just suffering from a bit of poor storage. It’s a bolt m/m with an A block 12/34 bolt in it.
waw44
Member
If anything, start with gun oil/ballistol on a rag, and do it gently. Less is more.
Those who know what it is, won't care about the rust and will appreciate the un-messed with condition. People who would want the rust cleaned off probably won't appreciate what the rifle is and will pass it anyway, because it's not a k98k.
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
Light oil and a rag... toothbrush. Ok. Please no steel wool. Kroil (especially) or other penetrating type oils will remove a lot of rust on their own. You'll see it on a clean white rag. Try the edge of a real copper penny to scrape on residual rust. Or bronze or brass wool if need be.
waw44
Member
one step at the time. Did you clean it with oiled rag already? results?
If your immediate impulse upon seeing this gun is to clean it, I would advise you to sell it to someone else who will appreciate it for what it is. Use that money to buy a “pretty” gun. This will never be one.
If you want to keep it, I would advise wiping the metal with an oily rag. Maybe wipe the stock with a damp cloth. Otherwise, sell it.
If you want to keep it, I would advise wiping the metal with an oily rag. Maybe wipe the stock with a damp cloth. Otherwise, sell it.
