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1934 Wz.29 Potential Greek Partisan Capture/Rework (Additional Research/Feedback Needed)

krukster86

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I have recently acquired a Wz.29 that piqued my interest. From a general perspective, it isn't a collector piece by any means, the finish above the woodline is mostly gone and is "in the white", bore is somewhat dark and pitted with decent rifling remaining, it has a mismatched rear sight and rear sight spring, the stock matches itself, but doesn't match the barreled receiver, the triggerguard/floorplate/follower are from a K98k (though they match themselves), and the bolt is from a K98k as well.

However, there were some characteristics that caught my eye. The rear sling swivel was ground off (like a German capture Wz.29), the front barrel band had its undersling swivel removed (seen on some German capture Wz.29s), and the stock had some interesting features:
1. The stock is Polish marked with faded proofs, and it it is interesting that the stock has the serial number stamped both in the vertical and horizontal directions (I didn't see a German depot stamp though).
2. The stock appears to have an old modification to it to accommodate closure of a bent K98k bolt.
3. There is a rectangular stamp with three "V"'s on the side of the buttstock.

From looking at old forum posts and talking with other collectors, these same markings have been personally seen on at least 1 other Wz.29, a M95 long rifle, and a K98k owned by other collectors I have communicated with. It seems that the prevailing theory is that these V's are actually Greek Lambdas, and that these are a Greek partisan marking. I have some example photos from those collectors posted below.

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Now since the stock does not match the barreled action, there is no clear depot stamp, and the K98k parts swapped in do not match either, I cannot definitively say that this rifle was at some point a German capture rework. However, it could be a cobbled together mixmaster assembled post-war by a collector, or (and I am making a huge stretch here), it could be truly a Greek partisan rifle.

I am looking for some feedback from the collecting community about any theories or additional information (or corrections) on what you see in this rifle.

Any way you slice it, at the end of the day it is still an objectively decent shooter grade crested Wz.29.
 
I went down that rabbit hole with the same marking on my G98/40…there are no definitive sources for any of the theories. Here are some of the possible fragments I collected - none of which have any true provenance:

VVV

υπουργείο, it means ministry
Legion λεγεώνας
Popular Λαϊκός
People (mass) λαός
Free (colloquial form) λεύτερος
Laocracy (Greek: λαοκρατία) is a political term meaning "rule of the people" (Greek Communist party)
People’s. Λαϊκή
Λεωνίδας Leonídas

I even asked ChatGPT a couple of times and got various gobbledygook answers.

If you’re successful you’ll be a hero!! 😀
 
I don’t hold to the fanciful interpretation of this (invoking Greece, the Greek people and Leonidas of Sparta/Lakonia). That wasn’t even done on M.1903/14 M-S or Greek contract 1930 FN Mauser rifles, as far as I’ve seen.

That being said, all of the reported/documented types of rifles with this marking would have had a chance of serving in occupied Greece based on the occupation forces deployed there. In that way, a Greek nexus makes sense. Beyond that and with specificity lacking, everything else is just speculation.
 
I don’t hold to the fanciful interpretation of this (invoking Greece, the Greek people and Leonidas of Sparta/Lakonia). That wasn’t even done on M.1903/14 M-S or Greek contract 1930 FN Mauser rifles, as far as I’ve seen.

That being said, all of the reported/documented types of rifles with this marking would have had a chance of serving in occupied Greece based on the occupation forces deployed there. In that way, a Greek nexus makes sense. Beyond that and with specificity lacking, everything else is just speculation.
100%, it is pure speculation. Unless there was a period photo of a rifle being used with this marking, it is just wishful thinking. That’s why I’m not getting my hopes up.
 
My only thought would be that I'd expect them to have ELAS or ELAN markings, as opposed to what we're seeing.
 
I have a Carcano that is VVV marked. The idea of this marking being Greek partisan comes across as ridiculous to me. Why mark weapons in a style more associated with Germans (branded).
 
I have a Carcano that is VVV marked. The idea of this marking being Greek partisan comes across as ridiculous to me. Why mark weapons in a style more associated with Germans (branded).
Making a brand would be an easy enough task for a developing country with plenty of blacksmiths, more so that rounding up a mill and making a due.

But yes, I agree. Entirely speculation.
 

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